Errorists Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Nice die crack too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFeld Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Why would you have any doubt about the coin being a Proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errorists Posted April 23, 2022 Author Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 3:56 PM, MarkFeld said: Why would you have any doubt about the coin being a Proof? Some spots on it making me think less then proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFeld Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 3:59 PM, Errorists said: Some spots on it making me think less then proof. Proof is a method of manufacture. And condition, including spots, has nothing to do with that. bsshog40 and Woods020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 The old soft pack mint and proof sets have been thrown around and stored improperly for decades now. They are often in poor condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 3:59 PM, Errorists said: Some spots on it making me think less then proof. You REALLY need to read and study more. A proof coin can literally be crumbed up beyond belief and still be a proof. All coins that start life as proofs remain as proofs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Not trying to retread an "old" thread, but I believe this quandary, this endless equivocating and non-stop speculating was non-existent--and by all means, correct me if I am wrong--before proof coins were being graded. Now we have, "my proof MS-whatever, is better than yours." I am unalterably opposed to anything that fuels the craze for micro-distinctions, but understand the economic incentives at play here. I just choose to allow any circa 1960's Red Book do the talking for me as plainly stated here by at least two distinguished members: the mintage of coins is a process (using specially prepared planchets) and not a grade. Period. Post Mint Damage does not fly in the face of this basic fact. I am glad the OP posed the question, and I am delighted he got crystal-clear responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFeld Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 6:01 PM, Quintus Arrius said: Not trying to retread an "old" thread, but I believe this quandary, this endless equivocating and non-stop speculating was non-existent--and by all means, correct me if I am wrong--before proof coins were being graded. Now we have, "my proof MS-whatever, is better than yours." I am unalterably opposed to anything that fuels the craze for micro-distinctions, but understand the economic incentives at play here. I just choose to allow any circa 1960's Red Book do the talking for me as plainly stated here by at least two distinguished members: the mintage of coins is a process (using specially prepared planchets) and not a grade. Period. Post Mint Damage does not fly in the face of this basic fact. I am glad the OP posed the question, and I am delighted he got crystal-clear responses. In the case of a 1964 half dollar, the average Proof and the average business strike are worth about the same amount. So there’s no meaningful economic incentive in distinguishing the method of manufacture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errorists Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 I just like proof die cracks I suppose 🤷. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 6:01 PM, Quintus Arrius said: I am unalterably opposed to anything that fuels the craze for micro-distinctions You and Cliff Mishler both. Henri Charriere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...