1875 Republica Mexicana, at my wits end on this one for identification 0

[GBrad]

Yet another one of my coins (if it even is a coin and not a medal, token or button of some sort) from my antique store purchase a month ago of which I am still sorting through.  I have Google Lensed this coin, Google searched the date and markings on it, looked everywhere I could possibly look, and even downloaded a pretty cool app on my phone called "Coinoscope" but all to no avail.. So, here I am here for some guidance from you all to please help me identify exactly what this is. At very first glance using my 10x loupe, while it was still in its flat older style cardboard holder, I almost fell out.  The lightly worn golden spots would have fooled anyone into thinking this thing was gold.  Unfortunately, after taking it out of its holder that has several other coins in it, it only weighs right at 6.96-6.98 grams so it's definitely not au, darn it. The edge is reeded, just FYI.  I have done my best, on my own, to identify this one but I am at a dead-end standstill.  Thank you all for your help!!!

[Mr.Bill347]

Brad, according to my Google search it is listed on Worthpoint.

at least the reverse. The obverse appears to be a 20 centavos. Maybe some kind of hard times hybrid or counterfeit.

the obverse can be going on NGC as the Second Republic of Mexico 1 Centavo

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/mexico-second-republic-centavo-km-391.1-1874-1897-cuid-1118242-duid-1424689

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1873-civil-hard-times-post-era-gkl-1802827053

Edited January 8, 2022 by Mr.Bill347
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[Woods020]

It’s actually a military button. The center recessed area was where it was attached. 

[Woods020]

The attachment would have looked like this and has since been removed. 
 

[JKK]

G.K. is an interesting pair of letters to be found on a Mexican item. It certainly isn't some mule of a US CW token and a Mexican coin, or something flaky like that; that's just outlandish. It's the right size for a 25c piece, at least by weight, but there is no Mexican Republic 25c with that combination of sides. Woods, how do you account for the fact that we can't see any sign of a lost loop on the reverse?

[Woods020]

The bail. appears to have been soldered into the recess on the reverse center. If you look closely you can see some heat/solder discoloration. 
 

I found a few for sale online without the bail. 
 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/button-1875-republica-mexicana-diam-173277534

[Woods020]

If I had to guess I’d say the upper letters are unique initials. The Lyon on the bottom seems to be consistent on several I see. 
 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/button-1875-republica-mexicana-diam-173277537

 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mexico-military-button-complete-loops-1759416966

 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Woods020

[JKK]

Thanks. I admit I find the commonalities in style between the shown examples more persuasive than the small irregularities on the OP's original, but a lot can happen to a coin (or a button that looks like one). I think you have the right of it here.

[GBrad]

On 1/8/2022 at 5:56 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

Brad, according to my Google search it is listed on Worthpoint.

at least the reverse. The obverse appears to be a 20 centavos. Maybe some kind of hard times hybrid or counterfeit.

the obverse can be going on NGC as the Second Republic of Mexico 1 Centavo

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/mexico-second-republic-centavo-km-391.1-1874-1897-cuid-1118242-duid-1424689

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1873-civil-hard-times-post-era-gkl-1802827053

Thank you Bill. I appreciate you looking into that for me. I also tried the NGC World Coins site and found nothing that matched the reverse. I just now saw the numerous replies so let me check them out too. Thanks!

[GBrad]

Sorry for just now responding. @Woods020 yes, it does appear to have had something soldered to it at some point in time. I looked at the reverse and the small circle does appear to have had some other type of metal applied to it which would make perfect sense for a loop for a button. Upon further inspection, this thing does have an EVER so slight concave effect to it which makes perfect sense for it to have been a button. My question now is, what do the letters on the reverse mean, or stand for, or possibly who the button was issued to…… Is there any way to look up this information?? If so, I am at a dead end here on my part. Like I said earlier, I came up with nothing especially regarding the initials/letters on the reverse. Thanks!!

[Woods020]

On 1/8/2022 at 8:18 PM, GBrad said:

Sorry for just now responding. @Woods020 yes, it does appear to have had something soldered to it at some point in time. I looked at the reverse and the small circle does appear to have had some other type of metal applied to it which would make perfect sense for a loop for a button. Upon further inspection, this thing does have an EVER so slight concave effect to it which makes perfect sense for it to have been a button. My question now is, what do the letters on the reverse mean, or stand for, or possibly who the button was issued to…… Is there any way to look up this information?? If so, I am at a dead end here on my part. Like I said earlier, I came up with nothing especially regarding the initials/letters on the reverse. Thanks!!

I am no help on the lettering my friend. I didn’t see anything in my search. 

[Woods020]

On 1/8/2022 at 8:18 PM, GBrad said:

Sorry for just now responding. @Woods020 yes, it does appear to have had something soldered to it at some point in time. I looked at the reverse and the small circle does appear to have had some other type of metal applied to it which would make perfect sense for a loop for a button. Upon further inspection, this thing does have an EVER so slight concave effect to it which makes perfect sense for it to have been a button. My question now is, what do the letters on the reverse mean, or stand for, or possibly who the button was issued to…… Is there any way to look up this information?? If so, I am at a dead end here on my part. Like I said earlier, I came up with nothing especially regarding the initials/letters on the reverse. Thanks!!

As soon as I say that and look again I think I found a lot of info. You can see in the attached. Lyon or L stands for the mint that made it. The initials are the issuer it seems. 
 

http://numismatics.org/collection/1939.126.16

[GBrad]

On 1/8/2022 at 9:35 PM, Woods020 said:

As soon as I say that and look again I think I found a lot of info. You can see in the attached. Lyon or L stands for the mint that made it. The initials are the issuer it seems. 
 

http://numismatics.org/collection/1939.126.16

Excellent info there Woods.  I am constantly learning of these resources you professionals have here and I will continue to research this item I have.  Thank you very much for the link you supplied..

[GBrad]

Maybe the "G" atop the reverse stands for General...... ha!  Wouldn't that be pretty neat.  But then again, being a button, there may ultimately be no way of really finding out who this thing belonged to.  What gets me is the reeded edge.  I have never seen a button of any type with a reeded edge.  Very odd to say the least but I will continue to look into this.  Thank you very much to all that have responded to my post!

[GBrad]

One last thing.... If this button wasn't odd enough, without true explanation up to this point (even though I am very appreciative of the info previously supplied!!), the initials atop the reverse are actually the initials of the first names of my wife and I, G and K.  Pretty coincidental and very neat I thought. If nothing else, I may just refer to the letter L at the bottom of the reverse as "Love".......  Thanks again to all of you that responded.