Popular Post J P M Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) I picked up 1909 VDB it is in The American Historic Society Holder it is in very good shape a nice strike with some bag marks on the high spots like the ear and cheek and minor scratches on some of the letters in the back . But no marks in the fields or rim. Most of these production sets take used coins to make up the sets but this 1909 VDB is really nice. I was wondering if it would pass for. Edited August 19, 2021 by J P Mashoke GBrad, Lem E and Rummy13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bill347 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Nice JP! I paid $15.00 for mine. What did it cost you? Lem E and GBrad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 8:36 AM, Mr.Bill347 said: Nice JP! I paid $15.00 for mine. What did it cost you? $10 Mr. Bill, Yours is red I think that makes it worth more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Abshier Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Nice V.D.B i like older age chocolate copper , sometimes red just look awkward on older copper that should have oxide to brown . If I had to grade it I’d say either in upper limit of AU+ or MS60-MS61 at the most. J P M and GBrad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Zyskowski Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Years back was given a classic blue Whitman. It was a an extra. Got it home and dang if it didn’t have a 09 vdb not real good shape but readable date and mm. Yours is very nice. 🤓 J P M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 XF40 from these photos, the obverse could pass for AU but the reverse holds it down. Mohawk, RonnieR131, GBrad and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) On 8/19/2021 at 12:14 PM, Coinbuf said: XF40 from these photos, the obverse could pass for AU but the reverse holds it down. Thanks Coinbuf I know you have a real nice set of LMS. It is hard to get a good photo through the scratched up plastic. So are there to many marks on the letters holding it back from AU. Edited August 19, 2021 by J P Mashoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GBrad Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) J.P......Where are you finding all these decent, and some very nice, coins you continually post up???? I'm going to start following you around! Coin dealers and coin shops around my neck of the woods are pretty much non existent. Of course I do live in the hills of North Georgia so that may be a contributing factor. I'm lucky to have cell phone service at any given point in time. Some days I have to climb to the top of my telephone pole just to make a phone call! (Green Acres..... remember?) I may need to secretly spy on you and some of the other folks on here to see where y'all are going to obtain your coins (just kidding)...... haha. Finally have a good coin show here in Dalton, GA this weekend I plan on attending. Best thing to come this way all year long so maybe I'll get lucky there. Also hoping VKurtB is gonna be there whom I'd like the pleasure of meeting. Haven't made up my mind if I'm gonna shake his hand..... give him a hug (probably not due to COVID...) or just plain out slap him...... (that way he will never forget me...) Edited August 19, 2021 by GBrad RonnieR131, James Zyskowski and Coinbuf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 I shop at a lot of antique stores and buy the old junk mint sets that are cheap. Sometimes you can get lucky and find one coin in the set that will pan out. I'm not finding big money coins but Break even or maybe a little extra value. In reality it is only worth what someone will pay you for it in the end. GBrad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 9:25 AM, J P Mashoke said: Thanks Coinbuf I know you have a real nice set of LMS. It is hard to get a good photo through the scratched up plastic. So are there to many marks on the letters holding it back from AU. No its not the hits that I have concerns over, its the overall look. This is one of those coins that would have gotten a split grade back in the early ANACS days. The obverse shows light rub on the coat, lower jawline, cheek, and forehead. From a strict wear and mark standpoint it looks AU58, however I'm not seeing enough luster so I see the obverse as AU53 overall. The reverse is tougher as at first glance it looks XF45, but the blending of the upper wheat lines and the lack of any discernable luster lead me to an XF40 grade for the reverse. I always grade a coin by the worst side; which is the correct way; so that is how I reach my conclusion of XF40. However as I noted that is from these photos, in hand I might have a different opinion. RonnieR131 and James Zyskowski 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Abshier Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 12:55 PM, Coinbuf said: This is one of those coins that would have gotten a split grade back in the early ANACS days. Since you mention the old split grading , I wouldn’t mind seeing that come back some day for circulated coins but I highly doubt it would … when I’m buying raw coins from German dealers over seas they grade split grading style for some older coins that show some wear but the reverse might look AU or MS . Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 12:55 PM, Coinbuf said: No its not the hits that I have concerns over, its the overall look. This is one of those coins that would have gotten a split grade back in the early ANACS days. The obverse shows light rub on the coat, lower jawline, cheek, and forehead. From a strict wear and mark standpoint it looks AU58, however I'm not seeing enough luster so I see the obverse as AU53 overall. The reverse is tougher as at first glance it looks XF45, but the blending of the upper wheat lines and the lack of any discernable luster lead me to an XF40 grade for the reverse. I always grade a coin by the worst side; which is the correct way; so that is how I reach my conclusion of XF40. However as I noted that is from these photos, in hand I might have a different opinion. Thank you for the grading tips, The front is nice and it does have a bit of luster on the bust but the field is mat on the reverse and the wheat lines on the left are untouched but the one on the right is just starting to merge and we also have a small die crack on that wheat stalk GBrad and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VKurtB Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 11:14 AM, Coinbuf said: XF40 from these photos, the obverse could pass for AU but the reverse holds it down. It’s as if I wrote it myself. Coinbuf, GBrad and J P M 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrad Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 1:35 PM, VKurtB said: It’s as if I wrote it myself. Great minds think alike...... James Zyskowski and RonnieR131 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrad Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Question: I visit other forums on occasion just to see what's going on in other areas. I've noticed one in particular individual on another site (I'll refrain from saying their name) that has found umpteen beautiful coins, mostly varieties, and the guy has excellent photography skills and a great setup. His coins are predominantly LWC's and they are all found in the wild for the most part. However, he HAS to be putting something on his coins that give them a brilliant appearance and sheen....making them look extremely better in appearance than when he found them I'm sure. Anyone know what this may be? I haven't asked this guy because I don't really want to participate there and have to set up an account. I'm thinking maybe Versacare? I've never used the stuff before, only used extra virgin olive oil to remove gunk on some Lincolns, but even the olive oil makes an old Linc. come back to life. Any input? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrad Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 1:56 PM, GBrad said: Question: I visit other forums on occasion just to see what's going on in other areas. I've noticed one in particular individual on another site (I'll refrain from saying their name) that has found umpteen beautiful coins, mostly varieties, and the guy has excellent photography skills and a great setup. His coins are predominantly LWC's and they are all found in the wild for the most part. However, he HAS to be putting something on his coins that give them a brilliant appearance and sheen....making them look extremely better in appearance than when he found them I'm sure. Anyone know what this may be? I haven't asked this guy because I don't really want to participate there and have to set up an account. I'm thinking maybe Versacare? I've never used the stuff before, only used extra virgin olive oil to remove gunk on some Lincolns, but even the olive oil makes an old Linc. come back to life. Any input? Thanks! Actually going to post this as a question in its individual thread. But, please answer here if you'd like and know anything about what I'm talking about. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mohawk Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 12:14 PM, Coinbuf said: XF40 from these photos, the obverse could pass for AU but the reverse holds it down. Agreed 100%! This is one of those coins that one side brings down some. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 10:15 AM, J P Mashoke said: Thank you for the grading tips, The front is nice and it does have a bit of luster on the bust but the field is mat on the reverse and the wheat lines on the left are untouched but the one on the right is just starting to merge and we also have a small die crack on that wheat stalk Thanks for those additional photos JP, your reverse photo in the op must have had something on the plastic or the lens which made the lines look blurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 4:04 PM, Coinbuf said: Thanks for those additional photos JP, your reverse photo in the op must have had something on the plastic or the lens which made the lines look blurry. I thank you again. I know you know a penny when you see one LoL. and a XF40 is not a bad grade for one of these old catalog coin holders. I will put it in with the old mint sets I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
