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Sabotage or equipment failure?
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Good afternoon. This coin looked odd to me when I received it in change a few minutes ago. I took these photo's in order to get a closer look. It appears to be struck through a handful of miscellaneous hardware. Nuts, bolts, screws etc. The close up is at the base of the bust but if you look closely, you will find hardware items all over both front and back. I am curious as to how this may have occurred. Could the equipment have disinterested and caused this or did a mint employee toss a handful of junk into the works? I know it's just speculation but thought those of you with experience may have a different perspective. Also, would it be possible to remove the surface goo without technically cleaning it? And I am also trying to determine if it was struck more than once. Lastly, would I describe it as struck though hardware? You thoughts are welcome and appreciated!20210817_112602.thumb.jpg.4a8161a9e123b5028c6252a2bcdf0d27.jpg20210817_112602.png.8c3b2ecabb07c1835252fd32dba93315.png20210817_112613.thumb.jpg.8c24a0a3631dc9066d314f2a5f0c3b54.jpg

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I don't think it was struck through anything. It looks to me like it's just post mint damaged. The distance between the faces of the dies is small enough that, had there been a nut, bolt, or screw in there, it would have made a much deeper impression than shows on your coin.

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On 8/17/2021 at 12:54 PM, RJoe said:

did a mint employee toss a handful of junk into the works?

Nah the mint didn’t do that … I do that in my garage when I’m bored nothing else to do I stamp all kinds of stuff into circulated coins , then watch people post them up on here I think its hilarious 

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On 8/17/2021 at 12:59 PM, Just Bob said:

I don't think it was struck through anything. It looks to me like it's just post mint damaged. The distance between the faces of the dies is small enough that, had there been a nut, bolt, or screw in there, it would have made a much deeper impression than shows on your coin.

I'm with Bob.....definitely PMD.  A strike-through is typically much deeper than what your coin is showing.  

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On 8/17/2021 at 11:54 AM, RJoe said:

Good afternoon. This coin looked odd to me when I received it in change a few minutes ago. I took these photo's in order to get a closer look. It appears to be struck through a handful of miscellaneous hardware. Nuts, bolts, screws etc. The close up is at the base of the bust but if you look closely, you will find hardware items all over both front and back. I am curious as to how this may have occurred. Could the equipment have disinterested and caused this or did a mint employee toss a handful of junk into the works? I know it's just speculation but thought those of you with experience may have a different perspective. Also, would it be possible to remove the surface goo without technically cleaning it? And I am also trying to determine if it was struck more than once. Lastly, would I describe it as struck though hardware? You thoughts are welcome and appreciated!20210817_112602.thumb.jpg.4a8161a9e123b5028c6252a2bcdf0d27.jpg20210817_112602.png.8c3b2ecabb07c1835252fd32dba93315.png20210817_112613.thumb.jpg.8c24a0a3631dc9066d314f2a5f0c3b54.jpg

Ever notice how many "maybe errors" are also corroded out the wazoo? Yeahhhh, me too.

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On 8/17/2021 at 11:40 AM, Jason Abshier said:

Nah the mint didn’t do that … I do that in my garage when I’m bored nothing else to do I stamp all kinds of stuff into circulated coins , then watch people post them up on here I think its hilarious 


I wondered who was doing that?   Up here at 8000ft. Elevation and snowed in half the year we like to do overprints 😈 leather strap hammer a quarter on a half wrap it up smack em good with the hammer and put in circulation 😂

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If anyone finds any sideway RPM “W” mintmark quarter stamped over P or D mintmark quarters those were made by me too . Very very rare I only made 3 of them with a special W punch tool and ball peen hammer . I got frustrated I couldn’t find any “W” quarters so I made my own and plan on sending them into grading to get my own variety for them . I left them on my night stand one day but my wife used them in a vending machine never gotten around to making some more RPM “w” quarters 

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Thanks guys. That explains it. So the images are there, just applied by someone? Wanted to make sure I wasn't just seeing things. I knew the coin was to beat up to be worth anything but my curiosity made me want to know how they got there. Just found another in fact. Thanks again20210817_112532.thumb.jpg.e5d01bcc4235a8f5cb21870c0cb7e09a.jpg20210817_112532.thumb.jpg.e5d01bcc4235a8f5cb21870c0cb7e09a.jpg20210817_112532.thumb.jpg.e5d01bcc4235a8f5cb21870c0cb7e09a.jpg

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I have never found a W quarter in the wild 😝. I’ve got people in shops looking no luck.  I finally won a first week of discovery at auction so I got one but I might be interested in buying one of those W’s special issue 😉

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On 8/17/2021 at 5:19 PM, RJoe said:

Thanks guys. That explains it. So the images are there, just applied by someone? Wanted to make sure I wasn't just seeing things. I knew the coin was to beat up to be worth anything but my curiosity made me want to know how they got there. Just found another in fact. Thanks again20210817_112532.thumb.jpg.e5d01bcc4235a8f5cb21870c0cb7e09a.jpg20210817_112532.thumb.jpg.e5d01bcc4235a8f5cb21870c0cb7e09a.jpg20210817_112532.thumb.jpg.e5d01bcc4235a8f5cb21870c0cb7e09a.jpg

Perhaps you should google hobo nickels fascinating story of carving taken to the next level. Enjoy 😊 

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On 8/17/2021 at 7:22 PM, James Zyskowski said:

I have never found a W quarter in the wild 😝. I’ve got people in shops looking no luck.  I finally won a first week of discovery at auction so I got one but I might be interested in buying one of those W’s special issue 😉

I've found a few.  They're kind of interesting.  There's a couple I'll keep (especially the one my Dad found and gave to me and one other one with special meaning) but I may sell the other ones I found soon.  There are just too many Faustina the Younger coins out there and I have to fund them somehow!!

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On 8/17/2021 at 7:22 PM, James Zyskowski said:

have never found a W quarter in the wild

Just got a 2019 W back in change yesterday from a convenience store.  Also got 2020 W 75 Privy Mark back in change from my bank last year after cashing a check.... guess I should consider myself lucky...

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On 8/18/2021 at 1:04 AM, GBrad said:

Just got a 2019 W back in change yesterday from a convenience store.  Also got 2020 W 75 Privy Mark back in change from my bank last year after cashing a check.... guess I should consider myself lucky...

I found 2020-W with privy mark as well but it circulated with scratches all over it , low and behold I found West Virginia quarter with a die break on reverse @ 4:00 position … all in my pocket change on the same day … I played lottery that day thinking it was my lucky day , no luck there didn’t even hit one number on ticket 

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