Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Hi, new here. But I joined in order to have some coins graded and was happy to notice this forum. Everyday I go through my coins and find I am just humming and hawing over what I should do with the real dope ones. If anyone would like to help me decide if I should grade or sell on eBay that would be great. I will mention what I was thinking of doing with them so that if I am missing info about a coin, maybe one of you would be willing to help me learn more about it. I’ve really hit a wall so any help would be great. I was considering having this 1970 s, floating roof no FG graded then sent to auction. And this 1972 D washington quarter I was thinking of selling on eBay, but for 1000$? Crazy or no... lemme know if u have any thoughts, thanks m Edited April 16, 2021 by Nyami Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The quarter looks nice but it would have to grade 68 to be worth it, chances are it's not. The cent is not worth sending in. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Thanks very much for your input. I will post another two. Edited April 16, 2021 by Nyami Miss said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RonnieR131 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The reverse of the 1961 looks really good. The obverse I can't tell because the pic focus is too blurry. It almost looks coated. The inside of the ear and beard are missing, and more. Just my immediate observation. Others will soon chime in that know a LOT more than I. Good luck, I wish you well. Nyami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, ronnie stein said: The reverse of the 1961 looks really good. The obverse I can't tell because the pic focus is too blurry. It almost looks coated. The inside of the ear and beard are missing, and more. Just my immediate observation. Others will soon chime in that know a LOT more than I. Good luck, I wish you well. Thanks:) here are better photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The '61 looks like a proof. Did you find it in circulation? Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 These are very nice coins, but to set your expectations correctly you mention selling the quarter for $1k. That is very unrealistic unless I am missing something very special about it. Generally the guidance is that if a coin won’t have a fair market value of $150 or more it isn’t sensible to spend the money grade it. I don’t think that what you have posted would make the mark, but possible. They would either have to grade extremely high or have a desirable error/variety. out of curiosity the 61 proof cent looks like it’s in some kind of slab with a label. What does it say? Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I think the 61 is plated. That used to happen rather often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) None of the pictured coins are worth more than face value. Where the fantasy of selling one of them for $1,000 came from is beyond my limited mental capacity.... Edited April 16, 2021 by RWB Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The 1961 is a proof. The unusal thickness of the date digits makes me wonder whether it might be a DDO, but I can't see it being worth slabbing. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The only coin you have posted that is remotely worth doing anything with is the 1961 PF Lincoln. I am not aware of; nor could I find; any listings of any varieties for that date, however as Conder mentioned it does look like a possible double die coin. I would suggest that you post it on the CONECA forum Link and get more feedback on that possibility. I have no idea why you think that your 1972-D quarter is worth 1K, the price guide for an MS68 is $650, and from your photos I do not see your coin grading that high. The 1970-S Lincoln is the more common large date and is not a full floating roof, and while I don't follow that minor of a thing I do not recall seeing the floating roof on the NGC approved list of varieties that they attribute. Also from your photos I would not see that as grading high enough to be worth grading or one of the two varieties that NGC does attribute, maybe in hand or with better photos my opinion would be different. Nyami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modwriter Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Just Bob said: The '61 looks like a proof. Did you find it in circulation? Interested to know where the OP found these coins also. They would grade MS67 at the highest in my opinion. Nyami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henri Charriere Posted April 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2021 @NyamiBefore you hit us with full disclosure of the facts as you know them to be regarding plating, missing appendages, actual finish and whether the '22 is an example of one of finest counterfeits extant that is legal to own, please enlighten us as to whether the initials of the designer, Victor David Brenner, appears where it's supposed to on either coin. Thanks much! kenlee47, Modwriter and Nyami 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modwriter Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Quintus Arrius said: @NyamiBefore you hit us with full disclosure of the facts as you know them to be regarding plating, missing appendages, actual finish and whether the '22 is an example of one of finest counterfeits extant that is legal to own, please enlighten us as to whether the initials of the designer, Victor David Brenner, appears where it's supposed to on either coin. Thanks much! Good catch. The 1970-S I have, the VDB has some wear, but it is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Just Bob said: The '61 looks like a proof. Did you find it in circulation? No, I bought it from a friend. Uncirculated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post l.cutler Posted April 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2021 Nice enough to put in holders and keep, but not a lot of value there. The proof cent might be worth a couple dollars, that is the best coin. Coinbuf, Modwriter, Nyami and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Woods020 said: These are very nice coins, but to set your expectations correctly you mention selling the quarter for $1k. That is very unrealistic unless I am missing something very special about it. Generally the guidance is that if a coin won’t have a fair market value of $150 or more it isn’t sensible to spend the money grade it. I don’t think that what you have posted would make the mark, but possible. They would either have to grade extremely high or have a desirable error/variety. out of curiosity the 61 proof cent looks like it’s in some kind of slab with a label. What does it say? 7 hours ago, RWB said: None of the pictured coins are worth more than face value. Where the fantasy of selling one of them for $1,000 came from is beyond my limited mental capacity.... I thought it may be this coin. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said: @NyamiBefore you hit us with full disclosure of the facts as you know them to be regarding plating, missing appendages, actual finish and whether the '22 is an example of one of finest counterfeits extant that is legal to own, please enlighten us as to whether the initials of the designer, Victor David Brenner, appears where it's supposed to on either coin. Thanks much! My bad. But I am hear to learn. I truly do thank you all for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Woods020 said: These are very nice coins, but to set your expectations correctly you mention selling the quarter for $1k. That is very unrealistic unless I am missing something very special about it. Generally the guidance is that if a coin won’t have a fair market value of $150 or more it isn’t sensible to spend the money grade it. I don’t think that what you have posted would make the mark, but possible. They would either have to grade extremely high or have a desirable error/variety. out of curiosity the 61 proof cent looks like it’s in some kind of slab with a label. What does it say? It is a international numismatic bureau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) I think this one is a winner for sure. I’m super grateful for everyone. Edited April 16, 2021 by Nyami Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) On the 1961 Does the INB slab call it a proof or uncirculated? And you were looking for values under the proof DCAM column. That coins is not a DCAM, it isn't even a CAM. Try looking under the RD catagory, and it WON'T make a 69. Edited April 16, 2021 by Conder101 Coinbuf and Modwriter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 7 hours ago, RWB said: None of the pictured coins are worth more than face value. In view of the OP's written confession as to the grade assigned the coin by the international numismatic bureau (presumably an arm of INTERPOL or NCIC) i.e., Uncirculated, what facts did you rely on to support your conclusion that neither coin was worth more than face value? The copper content of the Wheatie alone is worth several times face. And any suggestion this coin lies directly next to an Extremely Fine specimen on the non-Sheldon continuum, is pushing things a bit. Even in degraded condition, the '22 no "D" commands a price ten thousand times over face, $100.00 = 10,000 cents. Where does D.W. stand on this? Modwriter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyami Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Conder101 said: On the 1961 Does the INB slab call it a proof or uncirculated? And you were looking for values under the proof DCAM column. That coins is not a DCAM, it isn't even a CAM. Try looking under the RD catagory, and it WON'T make a 69. It called it a proof. I think it came from a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The 73 D Rosie doesn’t appear to be full bands. Any interruption disqualifies it from FB. Look at the price of a non FB in maybe mid MS (64-65 ish). Not worth much. Coinbuf and Modwriter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) International numismatic bureau does not have a good reputation in the coin industry, if you do some searching you can see complaints about this firm over grading coins. That is not to say that you cannot find nice coins in this holder but its more akin to finding a needle in a haystack. If you have bought a significant number of coins in these holders and attempt to cross them to more reputable TPG's like NGC or PCGS my guess is that you will be very disappointed with the results. Edited to add: I also do not think that 1973-D Rosie has much of any chance of being graded as a FB by NGC. Edited April 16, 2021 by Coinbuf Modwriter and Woods020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) The name at top left is sufficient identification of the source of this silliness: "Fido." None of the coins the OP has shown are worth more than face value. Encouraging this kind of fantasy is cruel and discourages acquisition of realistic knowledge about grading US coins. Edited April 17, 2021 by RWB Hoghead515 and Modwriter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modwriter Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Quintus Arrius said: In view of the OP's written confession as to the grade assigned the coin by the international numismatic bureau (presumably an arm of INTERPOL or NCIC) i.e. An arm of Interpol...classic. lol😂 kenlee47 and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 [I guess I just don't get it. We disemboweled a collector for having the unmitigated gall for presenting a '22 no "D" for review rejecting it as inauthentic (all because the services of an inexperienced cointerfeiter without references was employed) and here we roll out the red carpet and accept a '22 no "D" with no comment as to its authenticity or grade with a FINAL WORD on the subject rendered by a source we are forbidden to question, or contradict by law. Looks like my only consolation is eliciting a good laugh from Modwriter who appreciated the joke.] Modwriter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods020 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Quintus Arrius said: [I guess I just don't get it. We disemboweled a collector for having the unmitigated gall for presenting a '22 no "D" for review rejecting it as inauthentic (all because the services of an inexperienced cointerfeiter without references was employed) and here we roll out the red carpet and accept a '22 no "D" with no comment as to its authenticity or grade with a FINAL WORD on the subject rendered by a source we are forbidden to question, or contradict by law. Looks like my only consolation is eliciting a good laugh from Modwriter who appreciated the joke.] Am I missing something? Where has this post contained a 22 no D cent? And I’m really asking. I probably did miss it but have no idea what you are referencing. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
