Dealer Buy-Back Prices

[MarkFeld]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

[Calamerica]

Thanks all for your input on this.

 

 

 

The truth is that I got a phone call about the coin with an offer of $1,400. I told the customer service person that my mother had passed away and that I needed $1,589 to cover the cremation expenses so I could bring my Mother back home.

 

The customer service person talked to this coin dealer and the best he could do was $1,450.

 

Of course I had to accept the offer because I am not a rich man and the priority was to bring my mother home.

 

I probably might have over paid for the coin but it is the rarer variety and a very tough series to find nice and I did not expect to sell it so soon.

Life goes on.

 

 

This is why I believe 100% that the price LeeG paid for that coin is irrelevant;

 

Your agenda is noted.

 

Your expertise in the market value area may be subject to interpretation, though, as is your assumption of persons and their intent and knowledge. This is supported by your admitted lack of knowledge of Mark Feld.

 

My suggestion is that whenever you have the need or feel the overwhelming pressure to be discourteous and accusatory and superior in knowledge of numismatics and business and Law, call on me. I am glad to be a target, and help you get through things. That way, you don't have to shotgun silliness.

 

Okay, I will take you up on you "calling me out" because, in YOUR words, of my so-called silliness, and discourteous behavior. As you say, help me through this case.

My posts are NOT indicative of my knowledge in Numismatics, business or Law, my posts are the INVITED posts of the OP, LeeG, and I rendered my posts, of which I back them all up 100%. If I am wrong anywhere, I will post said wrongfulness, but I know, as of right now, I am not.

 

Your turn, Mr. Knowitall( what an avatar name... this is not going to be pretty)

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Thanks all for your input on this.

 

 

 

The truth is that I got a phone call about the coin with an offer of $1,400. I told the customer service person that my mother had passed away and that I needed $1,589 to cover the cremation expenses so I could bring my Mother back home.

 

The customer service person talked to this coin dealer and the best he could do was $1,450.

 

Of course I had to accept the offer because I am not a rich man and the priority was to bring my mother home.

 

I probably might have over paid for the coin but it is the rarer variety and a very tough series to find nice and I did not expect to sell it so soon.

Life goes on.

 

 

This is why I believe 100% that the price LeeG paid for that coin is irrelevant;

 

Your agenda is noted.

 

Your expertise in the market value area may be subject to interpretation, though, as is your assumption of persons and their intent and knowledge. This is supported by your admitted lack of knowledge of Mark Feld.

 

My suggestion is that whenever you have the need or feel the overwhelming pressure to be discourteous and accusatory and superior in knowledge of numismatics and business and Law, call on me. I am glad to be a target, and help you get through things. That way, you don't have to shotgun silliness.

 

Okay, I will take you up on you "calling me out" because, in YOUR words, of my so-called silliness, and discourteous behavior. As you say, help me through this case.

My posts are NOT indicative of my knowledge in Numismatics, business or Law, my posts are the INVITED posts of the OP, LeeG, and I rendered my posts, of which I back them all up 100%. If I am wrong anywhere, I will post said wrongfulness, but I know, as of right now, I am not.

 

Your turn, Mr. Knowitall( what an avatar name... this is not going to be pretty)

 

We are getting somewhere.

 

You were doing fine until the second sentence. It is not a logical response. You are concurring that your Posts lack the knowledge of numismatics, business and Law that would be helpful in interpreting what you are attempting to convey, yet you believe your response is logical because you were invited by the OP to render illogical Posts, and that is somehow logical.

 

I can partially understand illogical logic....I really can. However, your last sentence is beyond deciphering as even illogical logic.

 

We need to try again. Start with a new second sentence. The first sentence was fine.

 

You can accomplish clarity, and get your point to be understood, if you try.

[Calamerica]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

 

Paraphrasing here:

 

False Statement: " The Dealer was unfair to me".

 

Damages: The 100% outstanding reputation of Dealer XYZ is now in question by the printed words on an online Forum( worded this way for Nutmeg Coin to keep him from correcting me even though I DO know what the difference between Libel and Slander is) and would YOU now buy from Dealer XYZ?

 

Proven damages: In the famous National Enquirer cases and other publications that printed UNFAVORABLE details about abc, the potential "loss of Income" from the PERCEPTION of future business predicated and founded upon future transactions: a la Shirley Jones vs. National Enquirer, her agent dropped her, and without that agent, she can't get first dibs for commercials, bit parts, etc. despite her being in the :downswing" of her career( the NE actually tried to portray that she was old and finished in Court). The NE tried to say that she could have gotten other agents, but the court knew that losing the established agent is loss of income POTENTIAL based on her lifetime of earnings. Of course, the court ruled in her favor, and she was appropriately awarded an undisclosed amount enough to make her go away.

 

This Dealer here XYZ? If he can show that he is way down on sales for an extended period, that is loss of income. He wins easily. Don't forget the "karma" post. That would be admitted as well.

 

CAL not a lawyer, but has one on retainer for his LLC

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

 

Mr. Mark, I have this. Please, allow me, as a favor. I insist. This is Pharmer incarnated.

[Calamerica]

Thanks all for your input on this.

 

 

 

The truth is that I got a phone call about the coin with an offer of $1,400. I told the customer service person that my mother had passed away and that I needed $1,589 to cover the cremation expenses so I could bring my Mother back home.

 

The customer service person talked to this coin dealer and the best he could do was $1,450.

 

Of course I had to accept the offer because I am not a rich man and the priority was to bring my mother home.

 

I probably might have over paid for the coin but it is the rarer variety and a very tough series to find nice and I did not expect to sell it so soon.

Life goes on.

 

 

This is why I believe 100% that the price LeeG paid for that coin is irrelevant;

 

Your agenda is noted.

 

Your expertise in the market value area may be subject to interpretation, though, as is your assumption of persons and their intent and knowledge. This is supported by your admitted lack of knowledge of Mark Feld.

 

My suggestion is that whenever you have the need or feel the overwhelming pressure to be discourteous and accusatory and superior in knowledge of numismatics and business and Law, call on me. I am glad to be a target, and help you get through things. That way, you don't have to shotgun silliness.

 

Okay, I will take you up on you "calling me out" because, in YOUR words, of my so-called silliness, and discourteous behavior. As you say, help me through this case.

My posts are NOT indicative of my knowledge in Numismatics, business or Law, my posts are the INVITED posts of the OP, LeeG, and I rendered my posts, of which I back them all up 100%. If I am wrong anywhere, I will post said wrongfulness, but I know, as of right now, I am not.

 

Your turn, Mr. Knowitall( what an avatar name... this is not going to be pretty)

 

We are getting somewhere.

 

You were doing fine until the second sentence. It is not a logical response. You are concurring that your Posts lack the knowledge of numismatics, business and Law that would be helpful in interpreting what you are attempting to convey, yet you believe your response is logical because you were invited by the OP to render illogical Posts, and that is somehow logical.

 

I can partially understand illogical logic....I really can. However, your last sentence is beyond deciphering as even illogical logic.

 

We need to try again. Start with a new second sentence. The first sentence was fine.

 

You can accomplish clarity, and get your point to be understood, if you try.

 

Stop the word play. Just do what you said you were going to do. Prove it.

 

Talk about that coin LeeG bought, talk about how that Dealer is whatever... talk about how that Dealer deserved to be "called out"... just bring what you got. Up front. Like me.

 

CAL ready to rock...

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

 

Paraphrasing here:

 

False Statement: " The Dealer was unfair to me".

 

Damages: The 100% outstanding reputation of Dealer XYZ is now in question by the printed words on an online Forum( worded this way for Nutmeg Coin to keep him from correcting me even though I DO know what the difference between Libel and Slander is) and would YOU now buy from Dealer XYZ?

 

Proven damages: In the famous National Enquirer cases and other publications that printed UNFAVORABLE details about abc, the potential "loss of Income" from the PERCEPTION of future business predicated and founded upon future transactions: a la Shirley Jones vs. National Enquirer, her agent dropped her, and without that agent, she can't get first dibs for commercials, bit parts, etc. despite her being in the :downswing" of her career( the NE actually tried to portray that she was old and finished in Court). The NE tried to say that she could have gotten other agents, but the court knew that losing the established agent is loss of income POTENTIAL based on her lifetime of earnings. Of course, the court ruled in her favor, and she was appropriately awarded an undisclosed amount enough to make her go away.

 

This Dealer here XYZ? If he can show that he is way down on sales for an extended period, that is loss of income. He wins easily. Don't forget the "karma" post. That would be admitted as well.

 

CAL not a lawyer, but has one on retainer for his LLC

 

Remember what I said. Focus on me. Shut all others out.

 

So, I have a suggestion that may be enticing for you.

 

Go to the Dealer that was in your opinion disparaged. Use your LLC if it will help. Have said Dealer sign over all Rights and privileges in the Case of Lee vs. Somebody, to you. Then you can sue directly. At that point, your Posts here will be admissible and I am sure you would want to submit the Posts as your Pleading anyway. You can call your Posts Count 1, Count 2, and so forth. Now, if you are going to take it to the Fed Level, you need to check and make sure how the Service of Process is going to work. It may get tricky. So, what do you think of my idea? I know it is just a rough outline, but we can build on that.

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Thanks all for your input on this.

 

 

 

The truth is that I got a phone call about the coin with an offer of $1,400. I told the customer service person that my mother had passed away and that I needed $1,589 to cover the cremation expenses so I could bring my Mother back home.

 

The customer service person talked to this coin dealer and the best he could do was $1,450.

 

Of course I had to accept the offer because I am not a rich man and the priority was to bring my mother home.

 

I probably might have over paid for the coin but it is the rarer variety and a very tough series to find nice and I did not expect to sell it so soon.

Life goes on.

 

 

This is why I believe 100% that the price LeeG paid for that coin is irrelevant;

 

Your agenda is noted.

 

Your expertise in the market value area may be subject to interpretation, though, as is your assumption of persons and their intent and knowledge. This is supported by your admitted lack of knowledge of Mark Feld.

 

My suggestion is that whenever you have the need or feel the overwhelming pressure to be discourteous and accusatory and superior in knowledge of numismatics and business and Law, call on me. I am glad to be a target, and help you get through things. That way, you don't have to shotgun silliness.

 

Okay, I will take you up on you "calling me out" because, in YOUR words, of my so-called silliness, and discourteous behavior. As you say, help me through this case.

My posts are NOT indicative of my knowledge in Numismatics, business or Law, my posts are the INVITED posts of the OP, LeeG, and I rendered my posts, of which I back them all up 100%. If I am wrong anywhere, I will post said wrongfulness, but I know, as of right now, I am not.

 

Your turn, Mr. Knowitall( what an avatar name... this is not going to be pretty)

 

We are getting somewhere.

 

You were doing fine until the second sentence. It is not a logical response. You are concurring that your Posts lack the knowledge of numismatics, business and Law that would be helpful in interpreting what you are attempting to convey, yet you believe your response is logical because you were invited by the OP to render illogical Posts, and that is somehow logical.

 

I can partially understand illogical logic....I really can. However, your last sentence is beyond deciphering as even illogical logic.

 

We need to try again. Start with a new second sentence. The first sentence was fine.

 

You can accomplish clarity, and get your point to be understood, if you try.

 

Stop the word play. Just do what you said you were going to do. Prove it.

 

Talk about that coin LeeG bought, talk about how that Dealer is whatever... talk about how that Dealer deserved to be "called out"... just bring what you got. Up front. Like me.

 

CAL ready to rock...

 

Cal, may I call you Cal? You are not focusing, darn it. All that was addressed by the OP.

 

We have to clarify your logic, before we can get anywhere. I am going to go eat now, and give you time to prepare an outline that you can work with, to re-phrase your previous response.

[MarkFeld]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

 

Paraphrasing here:

 

False Statement: " The Dealer was unfair to me".

 

Damages: The 100% outstanding reputation of Dealer XYZ is now in question by the printed words on an online Forum( worded this way for Nutmeg Coin to keep him from correcting me even though I DO know what the difference between Libel and Slander is) and would YOU now buy from Dealer XYZ?

 

Proven damages: In the famous National Enquirer cases and other publications that printed UNFAVORABLE details about abc, the potential "loss of Income" from the PERCEPTION of future business predicated and founded upon future transactions: a la Shirley Jones vs. National Enquirer, her agent dropped her, and without that agent, she can't get first dibs for commercials, bit parts, etc. despite her being in the :downswing" of her career( the NE actually tried to portray that she was old and finished in Court). The NE tried to say that she could have gotten other agents, but the court knew that losing the established agent is loss of income POTENTIAL based on her lifetime of earnings. Of course, the court ruled in her favor, and she was appropriately awarded an undisclosed amount enough to make her go away.

 

This Dealer here XYZ? If he can show that he is way down on sales for an extended period, that is loss of income. He wins easily. Don't forget the "karma" post. That would be admitted as well.

 

CAL not a lawyer, but has one on retainer for his LLC

 

" If he can show that he is way down on sales for an extended period, that is loss of income"

 

As I asked previously, where are the damages? None have been proved.

 

And calling someone "unfair to me" is a matter of opinion and ambiguity, and not necessarily a false statement.

 

No libel.

[MarkFeld]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

 

Mr. Mark, I have this. Please, allow me, as a favor. I insist. This is Pharmer incarnated.

 

John, have at it.

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

 

Mr. Mark, I have this. Please, allow me, as a favor. I insist. This is Pharmer incarnated.

 

John, have at it.

 

Thank you, even though it appears the favor won't be needed. Can I ask in the future for the favor, if needed, or in case of an emergency necessitated by a unforseen posting?

[MarkFeld]

Thanks for pointing that out John; I didn't see that part of the conversation. I thought it was someone reading other comments taken out of context (e.g. my criticism of a poster's encouragement to use review sites and my caution in being very careful into what is posted on those sites).

 

The OP's comments are not even close to being libelous IMO.

 

This kind of thinking is EXACTLY why the USA has so many "lawsuits"; no one understands a Tort from a Tart.

 

The OP libeled that Dealer in a most disparaging way, despite the too-late apology from LeeG.

 

I should have known that there are some here that can't or REFUSE to see that here. I feel right at home back on the Comics side; those guys/gals can't get a headway of reason if you waterboarded it into most of them...

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

We have "calling-out" by LeeG, and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality. Hey, the Big Shot Dealer can afford to GIVE LeeG money for this supposedly "overpaid for" copper. But LeeG helped shovel dirt on his grave here with his " The coin was the higher variety/special variety" and I looked up several price guide/ranges and he did NOT overpay for that coin. And the fact that the Dealer gave him 76% of the transaction, ORIGINAL PRICE PAID is deemed irrelevant. Only the Looters in Baltimore think that " hey, this so-and-so" I am now taking for centuries of unjustness is my ticket to steal/loot/throw rocks at the Police".

 

I don't know who Mark Feld is, but LeeG said he was one that was "supportive" of his cause, and now Mark Feld has taken his rightful stand, and is also being "called-out" by Walker, who was the poster with his "empty threats from Internet bullies".

 

These Forums are black & white, folks. Nutmeg Coin and his Ms. Sterber case, the three pages of the nine paged brief state LIBEL and not Slander as the case, but hey, Nutmeg is trying to beat me in the head with the syntax/interpretation. At any rate, that man who disparaged Ms. Sterber will lose his case once jurisdiction is settled.

 

I could go on and on, but this thread, as I said earlier, is ugly, and will get uglier.

 

This Thread was also temporarily removed, but put back when I was at work yesterday. Next time the Mods will vaporize it.

 

CAL who should have known better to speak out about unjust treatment of a Seller...

 

I don't think the OP libeled the dealer, as it appears that one or two requirements are absent. Where is the false statement and where are the damages suffered by the dealer?

 

Mr. Mark, I have this. Please, allow me, as a favor. I insist. This is Pharmer incarnated.

 

John, have at it.

 

Thank you, even though it appears the favor won't be needed. Can I ask in the future for the favor, if needed, or in case of an emergency necessitated by a unforseen posting?

 

Ask away. But I can't agree to it in advance.

[coinman_23885]

" If he can show that he is way down on sales for an extended period, that is loss of income"

 

As I asked previously, where are the damages? None have been proved.

 

 

Had the statements actually attacked his integrity and the integrity of his business, my thought is that it would be libel per se and even in the absence of proven damages, a plaintiff might succeed in acquiring nominal damages. Nevertheless, I agree that this is nowhere close to being libelous.

 

And calling someone "unfair to me" is a matter of opinion and ambiguity, and not necessarily a false statement.

 

I agree 100%. As long as it is clearly an opinion and not a false statement, it is not libel. Cal, this is why I word all of my posts that may be controversial with "in my opinion" or close with a statement indicating the same when debating coin related law that might upset some.

 

P.S. Cal, this was published at one point in a coin interview he did so I don't think he cares that I post this, but Mark Feld has a law degree. I suspect Mr. McKnowitall may as well.

[leeg]

Hi,

I just want to apologize to all on how this thread turned out.

 

I do enjoy posting here and enjoy the camaraderie of sharing coin images and the history behind our coins.

 

It's been a tough month for me and I continue to look to the future.

 

Based on what I'v'e seen posted in this thread, I call foul and being a d _ _ _ _ _ bag comes easy to some.

 

 

 

 

Enjoy your coins.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Hi,

I just want to apologize to all on how this thread turned out.

 

I do enjoy posting here and enjoy the camaraderie of sharing coin images and the history behind our coins.

 

It's been a tough month for me and I continue to look to the future.

 

Based on what I'v'e seen posted in this thread, I call foul and being a d _ _ _ _ _ bag comes easy to some.

 

 

 

 

Enjoy your coins.

 

I think it turned out fairly well, and somewhat in your favor.There were a few bumps and choppy seas along the way, but once the big wave was over, it was fine.

 

I think the deck has been properly scrubbed down, and there is no lasting ill will by anyone toward you.

 

I will keep the powder day in case an unexpected attack happens. It is going to have to be be a bigger Cal. weapon than what I have seen so far, to bully a person.

 

 

 

 

 

[MarkVIIIMarc]

...."and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality."....

 

Just to be argue because that is what we do in this thread.

 

the OP was waiting for a capitalist entity, a private business, to do what he thought was right and offer a higher buy back. I may have missed the talk about making D.C. regulate buy back rates though, it was a long thread.

 

 

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

...."and many agreeing with him. Government Socialist mentality."....

 

Just to be argue because that is what we do in this thread.

 

the OP was waiting for a capitalist entity, a private business, to do what he thought was right and offer a higher buy back. I may have missed the talk about making D.C. regulate buy back rates though, it was a long thread.

 

 

Commies everywhere...run. Get out now!!!!

[joeyuk]

Perhaps I am foolish but I do not keep track of who I bought from or what I paid. I do research when I buy and make my best informed decision. When I need or want to sell I research what it is worth today. Yesterdays price really doesn't matter.

 

If there is a flaw in this thinking please let me know.

 

 

[Dan Marinelli]

Perhaps I am foolish but I do not keep track of who I bought from or what I paid. I do research when I buy and make my best informed decision. When I need or want to sell I research what it is worth today. Yesterdays price really doesn't matter.

 

If there is a flaw in this thinking please let me know.

 

 

I can think of one flaw which may or may not bother you, and that is what happens when the tax man cometh? You would have to pay tax as income on any piece you sell that would be based on the face value of that piece should you not have record of your purchase.

[Calamerica]

"Coin pricing can be very subjective and sometimes there are enormous variations in pricing within a grading level."

 

"He agreed to the price; case closed. People who contractually agree to things and then whine about them later on online review websites deserve what they get."

 

 

Not everyone works on a 10% margin, and in the absence of fraud/deception, it is a free market and there is no one twisting the buyer's arm and making him or her purchase it. There are coins that are worth more than the guides and auction records based on quality. And this subjective determination is one for both the buyer and seller to make. Those who agree to it should accept the consequences and stop whining (and that is NOT targeted to the OP). Making potentially libelous remarks on a website will do nothing but open you up to a lawsuit (and yes business do read those reviews and have sued in the past; I don't blame them either).

 

I was NOT the first one who thought of this for the OP LeeG on this Thread.

 

Been away for a while, but will be back in and out.

 

This thread did NOT disappoint me, and I state here that more caustic, name-calling, masking( LeeG I wold hit the Mod button but the Mods will yank the Thread), and other games.

 

My stance was very simple for those who don't like Simple:

 

The Dealer in Question gave LeeG 74% of what he paid for the item 8 months AFTER purchase, NO prior arrangements re: buyback( Leeg's own admission), the coin WAS peddled BST, again LeeG's admission AFTER another Boardie brought that topic up, and what is the sole purose of this Thread? It was NOT to make the Dealer look good. LeeG started this thread to make the dealer look BAD when the truth is, a deal is a deal EXCEPT for those Libs who want to turn the world to their advantage when it suits them.

 

Now this Mr McKnowitall( I only call him Knowitall for obvious reasons) did NOT read my posts correctly. He is trying to turn this into his " I am superior intellect, thus watch this" game. Won't work with me. He thinks that I am going to spend one copper cent( no pun intended against LeeG) to start this case, he is mistaken.

 

Add that spice of LeeG's "karma" post, which is the cherry on the top of the cake; LeeG did disparage the dealer whether he will own up to is or not. To apologize later is disingenuous at best. many here should see that. Many don't, they are now focused on me.

 

Surprised at Mr. Feld's remarks. Law degree too? Works at Heritage? I wonder what he would say if I start a Thread disparaging Heritage in some way? I GUARANTEE he would not like that, even if he would keep that to himself. I could post case after case where the Libel cases were WON online, but I won't, because if I have to go through that to prove a point, those opposing me won't accept me and what I have to say anyway. Been there/done that. The best option for me is to distance myself from the "Walkers" that "won't back down" but never appeared to explain themselves. Just take action against them if the need should arise.

 

LeeG: you are wrong 100% in your intent, your demeanor, and I still might hit that Mod button because we all know who you are calling the d bag. Then to "backpedal" with that lame apology, then declare that you "quit", but are back again... well, let the public decide( as long as it is not that UTexas classroom where the Professor failed EVERY kid because they did not do the work - many "commentators" felt that the Prof. should be removed because it is 35 vs. one - great mentality in the USA - see my Libs sentence earlier).

 

LeeG you are now crying "foul"? How bold you appear to be. Start a thread running a Dealer down because the "help" that you received( imo you should have gotten NO help from that dealer - he was NOT obligated in any way) but are now declaring FOUL? Don't cry Foul, do something about it. That is what I do - I don't like something, I do something about it.

 

I would not want to do business with anyone who expected a 100% buyback 8 months later, and with no prior agreement. I understand the situation re: death of a parent, but most reasonable people prepare for unfortunate events such as that. Been there myself. We all have now that we think about it.

 

Hopefully this thread will die its course, and we all shall carry on.

 

CAL the Franklin collector

 

[wdrob]

 

You say a lot - yet very little.

 

Just my opinion. Please don't sue me.

 

 

 

[Calamerica]

You say a lot - yet very little.

 

Just my opinion. Please don't sue me.

 

 

 

Your opinion. It would be nice for contribution, not flaming. Don't worry - I won't sue you unless I know I can win.

 

CAL whose specially is not accepting fools easily

[MikeKing]

 

 

And very few even understand that there was no prior agreement BETWEEN LEEG AND THAT DEALER, who should have not been named.

 

In the past, I bought quite a few coins from Harry Laibstain, a lot of good coins. I also enjoyed competing with him at auction (and losing). I haven't looked at his website in many years, but I recalled that he did have a buyback policy. I went back to look (at his entirely different site) and he still has a buyback policy, however (and I don't believe he had this before but I could be wrong), he qualifies this with the buyback dollar amount being contingent upon the market. So, technically there was an agreement to buyback, but not at a given price.

 

I do enjoy posting here and enjoy the camaraderie of sharing coin images and the history behind our coins.

It's been a tough month for me and I continue to look to the future.

 

 

What I think needs to be understood here is that leeg HAS been one of the most consistent posters on this board, and as such, has shared really fine coinage with us, and without a snobby attitude. I would suspect that he's put quite a bit of money in many dealers pockets and has been a great customer. What especially needs to be understood is that leeg had a life event and this coin, and thus the dealer, got involved with it. Give him a break for gods-sake.

 

I haven't seen any libel at all here since fact and feeling were written.

 

Leeg might very well re-engage with Harry in a positive way, who knows, and continue their relationship.

 

I doubt Harry will lose business over this. Stuff happens. He's got great coins.

 

I would also like to point out that if you talk about a dealer on this board, either the dealer(s) are reading the board (which they do) or someone will talk to that dealer. I complained about a dealer (NOT the one mentioned in this thread) once on this board and received a phone call from them the next day. I felt like my privacy was invaded, I mean, this is a 'collectors' board, not a dealers board, and I chose to vent, not further negotiations with the dealer. I said something in a public forum and a friend of the dealer obviously felt they needed to intrude, and fine, that's what happened.

 

Funny, I got permanently banned from the PCGS board for coming to this same (intruusive) dealers defense..years ago..during one of their scourges, only to find later on that the very same dealer is back on the PCGS board, and none of my appeals at different levels ever got me back on the board that I contributed immensely to. He's probably never been aware of that.

 

In another instance, at a show, I commented about a dealer who overheard me. I regretted my big mouth, but I'm human, he's human. Despite that, he continued to be very good to me over the years and probably taught me more about coins than any other dealer ever did.

 

Stuff happens.

 

There's a lot of strong feelings being expressed in this thread. There are a lot of issues.

 

If there is one thing that should not happen, is for leeg to leave the forum for something like this. Hell...I was thrown off the PCGS forum for no good reason, but I'd go back, just because I had quite a a few friends on the board, invested a lot of time and effort in the board and have the right to be there.

 

The NGC board has always been a great place so far as I could remember, so leeg, don't let the board lose you to a bunch of hooplah when the bottom line is you've got a lot to say about coins that a lot of people will benefit from.

 

 

[joeyuk]

Perhaps a fair compromise would have been to accept the 76% buyback with an agreement for the dealer to shop the coin to other dealers etc.....and sell it at their discretion. Any proceeds above the 76% to be split 70/30 in favor of the dealer.

[Houston Investor]

This thread has been very interesting, entertaining, and enjoyed all the commentary. This has made me think more about my philosophy on this.

 

I can only only think of one instance since when I first started dealing in 1990 someone offered me a coin I had sold to them. It had been a couple of years. I bought it back for more than I sold it for because the market had moved up. He shopped it around the room and in selling it back to me I must have been the higher buyer - this was a long time ago.

 

I have never been hit with a situation where someone approached me on a buy back after a short period of time like a few months. The original deal, a retail transaction - market conditions, my cash needs, selling price vs wholesasle,etc is all in the past. Now like game clock being reset to zero the deal is now a buying deal. Consequently my offer (a wholesale transaction) is based on current market conditions, my inventory needs for the item, cash available for purchases, buying plan, what I think I can sell it for in making the desired margin. There exists no obligation for me to buy it from him or for him to sell it to me (as there was no written contract). It is what it is and there are no entitlements in numismatics.. However, I would make my best offer in terms of business ROI requirements, cash flow, and risk management. Then after he has shopped it around the room will honor the offer if he decides to sell to me. Otherwise good for him finding more from somewhere else. Nobody tells me what I should "buyback" a coin for.

 

[coinman_23885]

"Coin pricing can be very subjective and sometimes there are enormous variations in pricing within a grading level."

 

"He agreed to the price; case closed. People who contractually agree to things and then whine about them later on online review websites deserve what they get."

 

 

Not everyone works on a 10% margin, and in the absence of fraud/deception, it is a free market and there is no one twisting the buyer's arm and making him or her purchase it. There are coins that are worth more than the guides and auction records based on quality. And this subjective determination is one for both the buyer and seller to make. Those who agree to it should accept the consequences and stop whining (and that is NOT targeted to the OP). Making potentially libelous remarks on a website will do nothing but open you up to a lawsuit (and yes business do read those reviews and have sued in the past; I don't blame them either).

 

I was NOT the first one who thought of this for the OP LeeG on this Thread.

 

Been away for a while, but will be back in and out.

 

This thread did NOT disappoint me, and I state here that more caustic, name-calling, masking( LeeG I wold hit the Mod button but the Mods will yank the Thread), and other games.

 

My stance was very simple for those who don't like Simple:

 

The Dealer in Question gave LeeG 74% of what he paid for the item 8 months AFTER purchase, NO prior arrangements re: buyback( Leeg's own admission), the coin WAS peddled BST, again LeeG's admission AFTER another Boardie brought that topic up, and what is the sole purose of this Thread? It was NOT to make the Dealer look good. LeeG started this thread to make the dealer look BAD when the truth is, a deal is a deal EXCEPT for those Libs who want to turn the world to their advantage when it suits them.

 

Now this Mr McKnowitall( I only call him Knowitall for obvious reasons) did NOT read my posts correctly. He is trying to turn this into his " I am superior intellect, thus watch this" game. Won't work with me. He thinks that I am going to spend one copper cent( no pun intended against LeeG) to start this case, he is mistaken.

 

Add that spice of LeeG's "karma" post, which is the cherry on the top of the cake; LeeG did disparage the dealer whether he will own up to is or not. To apologize later is disingenuous at best. many here should see that. Many don't, they are now focused on me.

 

Surprised at Mr. Feld's remarks. Law degree too? Works at Heritage? I wonder what he would say if I start a Thread disparaging Heritage in some way? I GUARANTEE he would not like that, even if he would keep that to himself. I could post case after case where the Libel cases were WON online, but I won't, because if I have to go through that to prove a point, those opposing me won't accept me and what I have to say anyway. Been there/done that. The best option for me is to distance myself from the "Walkers" that "won't back down" but never appeared to explain themselves. Just take action against them if the need should arise.

 

LeeG: you are wrong 100% in your intent, your demeanor, and I still might hit that Mod button because we all know who you are calling the d bag. Then to "backpedal" with that lame apology, then declare that you "quit", but are back again... well, let the public decide( as long as it is not that UTexas classroom where the Professor failed EVERY kid because they did not do the work - many "commentators" felt that the Prof. should be removed because it is 35 vs. one - great mentality in the USA - see my Libs sentence earlier).

 

LeeG you are now crying "foul"? How bold you appear to be. Start a thread running a Dealer down because the "help" that you received( imo you should have gotten NO help from that dealer - he was NOT obligated in any way) but are now declaring FOUL? Don't cry Foul, do something about it. That is what I do - I don't like something, I do something about it.

 

I would not want to do business with anyone who expected a 100% buyback 8 months later, and with no prior agreement. I understand the situation re: death of a parent, but most reasonable people prepare for unfortunate events such as that. Been there myself. We all have now that we think about it.

 

Hopefully this thread will die its course, and we all shall carry on.

 

CAL the Franklin collector

 

You are so far off course it isn't funny. You didn't actually read my comments and the post I quoted which was not from Leeg. You have no clue what you are talking about, especially with regards to the law and that is abundantly clear to all of us who actually understand the law.

 

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

I will admit I was wondering who would honor the gentleman first.

In my defense, I did ask permission from Mark to do so in case of need required by future Posts by Mr. Cal, but unfortunately Mark declined give permission to do so for future events.

 

I had a rather lengthy response outline, something along the thickness and number of volumes of Pepe's Diaries.

 

However, having read your Post, I am leaning toward the power of brevity you have effectively penned.

 

Please be prepared to be branded "Lib". I don't know what it means, but it sounds ominous and is reserved for only the most stubborn Deniers of The Word of Cal.

[Calamerica]

Well well well...finding out a bit more and some good info on this Thread.

 

Some more parameters for those who continue to argue( troll as I call it):

 

No one needs permission to "deal with" me. If you want to deal with me, then do it. Don't ask Mark ( Feld I suppose) for his "blessings". Even if he is some kind of Mobster-type that send overgrown Goombahs to deliver messages, do it. I entertain everything and everything when it happens. That is my nice way of saying that I ain't scared of anybody or anything. Bring it. But be ready. I always am. I ain't here to make friends or to be P.C.

 

I am not going to keep combing over this thread, he said this, he said that. Apparently the law-degreed Juris Doctors love trolling. I hope those with the J.D.'s are making money off their hard-won degree. Maybe they will buy my coins someday. But I don't have a buyback policy. My world is simple: a deal is a deal. Period.

 

Wrong is wrong, and saying bad things about a Dealer here, which is NOT a collectors only Forum( Dealers are allowed too - anyone can sign up per NGC), is up to the OP. If someone wants to be wrong, so be it. What really irritated me is that LeeG received MAJOR benefit when the Dealer could have said "No". Then LeeG "apologizing" and waffling back-and-forth, a la Bill Clinton. Bit the hand that fed him. Hard for a person like me to sympathize with that. But you guys? One admitting getting kicked off of PCGS? I am a member of PCGS and will start looking there tonight and see what else I might discover.

 

Take care everybody and enjoy coin collecting.

 

CAL the Franklin Collector

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Well well well...finding out a bit more and some good info on this Thread.

 

Some more parameters for those who continue to argue( troll as I call it):

 

No one needs permission to "deal with" me. If you want to deal with me, then do it. Don't ask Mark ( Feld I suppose) for his "blessings". Even if he is some kind of Mobster-type that send overgrown Goombahs to deliver messages, do it. I entertain everything and everything when it happens. That is my nice way of saying that I ain't scared of anybody or anything. Bring it. But be ready. I always am. I ain't here to make friends or to be P.C.

 

I am not going to keep combing over this thread, he said this, he said that. Apparently the law-degreed Juris Doctors love trolling. I hope those with the J.D.'s are making money off their hard-won degree. Maybe they will buy my coins someday. But I don't have a buyback policy. My world is simple: a deal is a deal. Period.

 

Wrong is wrong, and saying bad things about a Dealer here, which is NOT a collectors only Forum( Dealers are allowed too - anyone can sign up per NGC), is up to the OP. If someone wants to be wrong, so be it. What really irritated me is that LeeG received MAJOR benefit when the Dealer could have said "No". Then LeeG "apologizing" and waffling back-and-forth, a la Bill Clinton. Bit the hand that fed him. Hard for a person like me to sympathize with that. But you guys? One admitting getting kicked off of PCGS? I am a member of PCGS and will start looking there tonight and see what else I might discover.

 

Take care everybody and enjoy coin collecting.

 

CAL the Franklin Collector

 

Cal,

If I am ever approached by anyone asking my opinion whether you are someone to have a business relationship with of any kind.....buy, sell, partnership, etc., I will be very direct in my response: In my opinion, no.

In my opinion, you do not know how to conduct yourself, or control yourself, or exhibit the minimum understanding of manners, and, in my opinion, you have a severe inability to comprehend the statements of others, which may cause a future detriment to anyone having such a relationship with you on a business level.

My opinion is based on your Posts in this Thread.

 

To the point: In my opinion, you have crossed the line. You have masked threats to others, you have been blatantly accusatory to others, you have openly accused others of political leanings that don't agree with your philosophy, without any prompting and without knowing the beliefs of those you attacked, and have denigrated political figures with derisive language and belittlement to make some unknown point, and in a manner suggesting an intent to disrupt the Thread.

 

For these reasons, I am going to ask the Mods to review your Posts, and decide the merits, if any, of your Posts.

 

I am suggesting that all members use the ignore function, in an effort to curb your desires to disrupt Threads in an unacceptable manner.

 

 

 

 

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Well well well...finding out a bit more and some good info on this Thread.

 

Some more parameters for those who continue to argue( troll as I call it):

 

No one needs permission to "deal with" me. If you want to deal with me, then do it. Don't ask Mark ( Feld I suppose) for his "blessings". Even if he is some kind of Mobster-type that send overgrown Goombahs to deliver messages, do it. I entertain everything and everything when it happens. That is my nice way of saying that I ain't scared of anybody or anything. Bring it. But be ready. I always am. I ain't here to make friends or to be P.C.

 

I am not going to keep combing over this thread, he said this, he said that. Apparently the law-degreed Juris Doctors love trolling. I hope those with the J.D.'s are making money off their hard-won degree. Maybe they will buy my coins someday. But I don't have a buyback policy. My world is simple: a deal is a deal. Period.

 

Wrong is wrong, and saying bad things about a Dealer here, which is NOT a collectors only Forum( Dealers are allowed too - anyone can sign up per NGC), is up to the OP. If someone wants to be wrong, so be it. What really irritated me is that LeeG received MAJOR benefit when the Dealer could have said "No". Then LeeG "apologizing" and waffling back-and-forth, a la Bill Clinton. Bit the hand that fed him. Hard for a person like me to sympathize with that. But you guys? One admitting getting kicked off of PCGS? I am a member of PCGS and will start looking there tonight and see what else I might discover.

 

Take care everybody and enjoy coin collecting.

 

CAL the Franklin Collector

 

Cal,

If I am ever approached by anyone asking my opinion whether you are someone to have a business relationship with of any kind.....buy, sell, partnership, etc., I will be very direct in my response: In my opinion, no.

In my opinion, you do not know how to conduct yourself, or control yourself, or exhibit the minimum understanding of manners, and, in my opinion, you have a severe inability to comprehend the statements of others, which may cause a future detriment to anyone having such a relationship with you on a business level.

My opinion is based on your Posts in this Thread.

 

To the point: In my opinion, you have crossed the line. You have masked threats to others, you have been blatantly accusatory to others, you have openly accused others of political leanings that don't agree with your philosophy, without any prompting and without knowing the beliefs of those you attacked, and have denigrated political figures with derisive language and belittlement to make some unknown point, and in a manner suggesting an intent to disrupt the Thread.

 

For these reasons, I am going to ask the Mods to review your Posts, and decide the merits, if any, of your Posts.

 

I am suggesting that all members use the ignore function, in an effort to curb your desires to disrupt Threads in an unacceptable manner.

 

 

 

 

Mods have been notified.j