1916-D Buffalo nickel newp.....

[Buffalo Head]

I just returned from Albuquerque NM visiting family so I went to a couple of B&M shops and found this 1916-D Buff. I will muster a guess of at least 64 with a good shot at 65. Do you concur? Thanks for looking....Joe

 

 

Here's a PCGS MS-63 for comparison....I like this coin for the color...

 

[Coinbuf]

Wow a real luster bomb, details look fine for a 65 grade but will those two rim nicks on the obv prevent a grade, unc details for pmd?

[Buffalo Head]

Wow a real luster bomb, details look fine for a 65 grade but will those two rim nicks on the obv prevent a grade, unc details for pmd?

 

No Sir, die cracks.

[Coinbuf]

Ok for some reason I thought thay were into not raised, old eyes . Good luck on the grading, I think a 65 is very possible.

[STLSPIDEY]

Nice.

Hopefully I can come across some nice coins like this one in my hunting.

[Buffalo Head]

Nice.

Hopefully I can come across some nice coins like this one in my hunting.

 

They're out there bud but ya gotta look.

[Coindude]

Joe, what the heck you doing getting away from your T1's! I like it, I think it's a 65 all day.

[Buffalo Head]

Joe, what the heck you doing getting away from your T1's! I like it, I think it's a 65 all day.

 

Every now and then I stray off the main path!!

[$ilverHawk]

I just returned from Albuquerque NM visiting family so I went to a couple of B&M shops and found this 1916-D Buff. I will muster a guess of at least 64 with a good shot at 65. Do you concur? Thanks for looking....Joe

 

 

Here's a PCGS MS-63 for comparison....I like this coin for the color...

 

 

Wow, not that familiar with Buffalo's, but if I was asked to judge the PCGS MS63 I would say AU. Is the 1916-D known for a very weak strike? Luster looks good. I'm stunned by the lack of device details (hair, feathers and braids) and Reverse shoulder. Again, not schooled in the nuances of strike characteristics of Buffalo's but I can't get by the flat definition of both the Obverse and Reverse on the PCGS MS63

 

As to your comparison, your pick up is superior to the PCGS MS63.

 

Carl

[Buffalo Head]

I just returned from Albuquerque NM visiting family so I went to a couple of B&M shops and found this 1916-D Buff. I will muster a guess of at least 64 with a good shot at 65. Do you concur? Thanks for looking....Joe

 

 

Here's a PCGS MS-63 for comparison....I like this coin for the color...

 

 

Wow, not that familiar with Buffalo's, but if I was asked to judge the PCGS MS63 I would say AU. Is the 1916-D known for a very weak strike? Luster looks good. I'm stunned by the lack of device details (hair, feathers and braids) and Reverse shoulder. Again, not schooled in the nuances of strike characteristics of Buffalo's but I can't get by the flat definition of both the Obverse and Reverse on the PCGS MS63

 

As to your comparison, your pick up is superior to the PCGS MS63.

 

Carl

 

This is just the reason why buffalo nickel's are kinda tough to grade. 1916 buffs from San Francisco are not known for BIG strikes or full details as the dies were used far beyond their life expectancy. When collecting these coins ya gotta remember the high points "hip bone and flank" are the last part of the coin to fill out and the first to show wear. You must be able to distinguish the difference between rub and the coin just not quite filling out all the way. There are many dates in the buffalo nickel series that have this problem for various reasons. Ya also gotta remember the high relief for these coins, they suck a lot a metal in the motifs. So, I guess ya can say Buffalo nickel's SUCK!!!!

[rrantique]

Sweet Buff Joe. (thumbs u

[Buffalo Head]

Sweet Buff Joe. (thumbs u

 

Thanks!! I'll keep ya posted on the grading results soon. Thanks to all.....Joe

[johnny9434]

looks like ya got a keeper there joe, nice pickup

[HULLCOINS-migration]

Beautiful coin, and much better strike than the 63!

[Kurtdog]

Nice coins. The second one is just the dies and the strike. Look at the ribbons coming off the braids. They're more complete in the second one than in the first one.

[RWB]

New hub in 1916.

 

Bottom coin is from old dies - top piece is much nicer. Here is another example of "grading" not being very helpful.

[Buffalo Head]

Nice coins. The second one is just the dies and the strike. Look at the ribbons coming off the braids. They're more complete in the second one than in the first one.

 

You've brought up a good point Kurtdog. The flip side of the ribbons coming down from the braids would be "states" on the reverse. They also are quite weakly struck. More than likely the dies were tilted off to one side. This would account for this weakness.

If ya take a look at a lot of these 16-d Buffs this is kind of the norm even in in grades 65. In my opinion, and everybody has one, the 16-d of quite a tough Buff to find fully struck with great luster.

[Kurtdog]

These two coins are a nice pair to see together, Joe. Tell NGC if they give the top one the 65, I'm willing to put my Kurtdog sticker on it. That ought to convince them, .

[Buffalo Head]

These two coins are a nice pair to see together, Joe. Tell NGC if they give the top one the 65, I'm willing to put my Kurtdog sticker on it. That ought to convince them, .

 

Consider it done!!!!!!

[Walkerfan]

That's a nice Buff, Joe.

 

Good luster and strike.

 

I like the date/mm combo, too.