Whats going on with shield nickels ?

[physics-fan3.14]

That 74 has a face only his daddy could love. Congrats on the rest of them though.

[dooly]

That 74 has a face only his daddy could love. Congrats on the rest of them though.

 

guess thats why they call me the daft Englishman

[skippy]

Dooly, I like your "golfer's 1871." You know, the one with the hole in one.

 

Your '74 does have some pretty heavy corrosion. The surfaces are almost for sure damaged underneath, so cleaning won't improve it much.

 

The '68 is an r68 with one broken letter. Do you think it's a DDO? I see some hints around the annulet, but it's too low grade to be sure and I can't see any confirmation anywhere else.

 

 

[dooly]

haah! nice one may use the hole in one gag in my next holed coin listing on ebay

 

yep think so with the 74

 

the 68 i am hopeing that it is a RPD "like" F-102 but as you say it is low grade but when i enlarged it seemed to have the top of the 1 showing as well .. we shall see ..

[dooly]

 

well the shield came from this ebay group today

 

 

i cannot see anything special but a nice coin with some nice die cracks ..

[dooly]

SOME VERY SAD NEWS ..

 

I found this on Ebay in the US and i needed it so badly .. but i had no idea how much to bid as i have never seen one of this Variety for sale before (the different dates ones i have in my collection were picked up for peanuts).. my Guesstamate was £80.00 UK seen as someone had destroyed this lovely coin by cleaning it to death

Well i was the under bidder .. should i have bid more ? what do you think

 

 

Thanks to the member who bid on it for me ..

[dooly]

This shield came from The USA today been cherry picking looks to be a Obverse hub A Reverse Hub IIb with FS# 002.94 one broken letter type C in cents .. and what i thaught i could see in the sellers picture is true

even in this poor grade I can make it out to be RPD FS-003.1 / F-102

 

" The "1" is repunched far North and is seen protuding from the left side of the ball" URS-2

 

Sellers pictures

 

my scan

 

and a close-up of the RPD with different lighting angles

 

[dooly]

picked this wide date up tonight on ebay .. looks like a week strike to the reverse more than ware .. when you see the condition of the obverse.. also there could be some cherry action around the date or just a bad picture but at the price i will give it a risk.

 

sellers pictures

 

 

[skippy]

Definitely FS-003.1, Dooly. Date position, engraved leaf match, as does the reverse hub. The MPD obviously matches.

 

This was a very nice pick!

 

[dooly]

thanks .. probably the lowest grade you will ever be able to identify it but happy with it for now

[dooly]

Another BIN i found last night .. and the seller has just taken my offer on it .. poor picture but has possabilitys and no picture of the reverse

 

[dooly]

Not a lot happening this week with my shield acquisitions .. still waiting on two from the USA .. but did pick this 67 from UK ebay for little money

 

sellers pictures

 

My pictures

 

nothing special but a nice one .. lets hope I do better next week

[CyberspaceVoid]

Dooly, are you trying to corner the Shield Nickel market?

(I do agree they are an undervalued series )

[dooly]

Dooly, are you trying to corner the Shield Nickel market?

(I do agree they are an undervalued series )

 

I think the saying is get them when there on the bottom .. I wonder how many people wish they had picked there Favorited ones up when they were less in favour

[dooly]

Hi got one of the coins from the us today .. posted on the 11th .. Bit slow eh!

 

 

It is a 1869 wide date with a IIb reverse

 

and this is what i saw in the sellers picture.. as far as i can tell the 18 of the date is re-punched to the north with the top of the showing and possibly the base of the 1 showing on both sides on the shank (picture not showing the left hand side very well)

I have been through Fletcher and cannot find anything on this coin .. F-102 has a north RP on the 18 but the top of the 8 is not as near to the ball .. F-108 has almost an identical die crack through the 8-6-9 as mine but RP on this one is 69 south.. So in conclusion and up for discussion here is ?? have i Cherrypicked a unrecorded RPD from Ebay ? or is there some other answer to this coin

 

 

Die crack markers in blue (I can find no die cracks on the reverse)

 

The only marker i can find on the reverse is ? Die polishing marks to the bottom (marked in yellow) and a very thin to the C almost like the so called "rat tail"

[dooly]

Picked another up this morning in the uk .. love the sideways photos ..

 

seems to have a lot of full stars to the reverse lets see

 

[dooly]

Another BIN i found last night .. and the seller has just taken my offer on it .. poor picture but has possabilitys and no picture of the reverse

 

 

UPDATE: well what a hassle this one has been .. seller took my offer on this one then told me that they refused to send it over the pond to me !

 

nicely a forum member offered to have it sent to them in the US and now i have heard it was posted this morning so should be with me sooooooon!!

 

they said it looked ok .. which was nice, things us collectors will do to acquire a coin eh!

[dooly]

Picked another up this morning in the uk .. love the sideways photos ..

 

seems to have a lot of full stars to the reverse lets see

 

 

Well this one came supper quick this morning 5* to the seller .. and you guessed it it's a Cherry

 

my picture

 

the cherry is a RPD on the 2 in a north direction

 

the closest i can find is F-14 but that is punched on the 8 & 2 and is further away from the ball .. so another unlisted one ? we will see

 

Obverse Die markers for this RPD are die cracks marked in blue

 

Reverse Die markers are .. Die cracks marked in blue and Rim cud marked in red

[skippy]

That's a nice find. As far as I can tell from your photos, this variety has not been listed anywhere yet.

[dooly]

thanks Howard .. thats what i love about this series theres always the chance of finding something new

[dooly]

Well thanks to a very kind forum member this coin came today

 

and to a shield aholic like me it almost has it all going on

 

 

It is a Obverse A Reverse IIA

All full stars

Full bars

Rim striking error (obverse)

Die cracks (both sides)

Rim cuds (? please see other post)

and doubling to date (probably mechanical but you cannot have it all)

 

Die cracks

 

[dooly]

Hi back again with a couple of new "rays" one of each year

 

 

alittle closer look at them

the 66 is quite a late die stage as the die cracks are running through the shield .. looked at thousands and I would say that this one is one of the latest i have seen (I have marked the 8 position as 5 (Fletcher) and hopefully someone may be able to identify a Early and later one from this die at some stage

The reverse is a somewhat newer die and has some great die gouges between the stars and rays (marked in pink)

 

the 67 in contrast is a early die state with no die cracks .. bit of a rare site on a shield * position as 6

The reverse also is very lacking in die cracks but has a great rim cud which seems a bit unusual .. also a weak Number 4 star but good detals to the rest so a weak strike rather than ware

[CoinPulsive PCM]

I also have spent weeks trying to find a good enough shield nickel for a reasonable price. I actually just posted a thread about a NEWP 1868 shield nickel I got off Ebay.

$44.78 I spent on it, I am sending it to NGC with a dozen other coins, I am certain the shield nickel I got will grade AU-55 at the lowest.

 

But I do agree that some sellers have coins with over the top prices and starting bids, but all you got to do is keep browsing thru the listings, and sooner or later you will find the coin(s) you want for a deal.

 

-Dave

[dooly]

Hi nice shield

 

 

if all is ok with the coin you should get between a 55 and 58 for the details

 

I have had a closer look at it and it is a Obv:A reverse Hub IIA

it is hard from sellers photos .. you need to do a scan of it flat when you get it .. the flat date is normal for the series never mind the date.. on zoomed i would say that there is evidence of a RPD on the 1 & 8 in a north direction (as marked red on the large picture. there is nothing in Fletcher with the date in this position and i question that it seems like an early die state coin so this may be a early mutable RPD coin ..IE the weak date was spotted early in the life of the die and then corrected with new hand punched numbers which could have obliterated the RPD or created a MPD

 

as for Grading where i have marked with the yellow arrow seems to be scrach marks from improper cleaning .. but this also could be the angle the photo was taken

 

 

lover the rim cud and seems to have some nice die cracks and you almost got all the full stars

[Bugmann1974]

Just thought I would throw up some pics of the Shields out of my Dansco 7070.

 

 

[dooly]

Thanks ray nice coins (thumbs u

[Conder101]

the weak date was spotted early in the life of the die and then corrected with new hand punched numbers which could have obliterated the RPD or created a MPD

You don't try and repunch a date into a hardened tool steel die unless you want a broken punch. They would have to re-anneal it first and they definitely wouldn't waste the time doing that with a die that was already cracking up because it wouldn't survive rehardening. And why go to the effort on a die that was only going to last for around 20,000 strikes anyway. (Die life on shield nickels was extremely short.)

[dooly]

Been a little quiet of late finding stuff for my collection just waiting for this one to come from the USA .. nice and cheep but i think it has been "environmental" effected . but in that grade for the price i can live with it

 

 

 

seem to have been hunting one of these narrow / tall dates for an age on ebay 350 to 1 is the guide for them .. seems a lot more to me

 

[skippy]

Narrow dates 1869's are fairly easy to find, although they are noticeably less available than the wide date.

[dooly]

well as i said been a little quiet .. but stopped up late tonight to bid on this worn out shield

 

 

won it for $10 .. think we have another cherry for the collection .. would not like to have a guess at which one it may be but there is something going one with the 1 i think

 

my enlargement of the sellers photo

 

lets see when it gets here