43 Steel, 1909 VDB Pennies

[500HPGT-migration]

First try here. Let me know how these might grade, please.

 

They are both dirty. Will they grade that way?

 

The VDB is blurry in the pic, but very easy to read in hand.

 

Thanks

 

[bsshog40]

They both look like they may bodybag due to environmental damage.

[e1cnr]

the 1909 looks like it has planchet problems on the obverse

 

 

are they special to you?

 

I wonder why you would consider spending $20+ on grading fees for coins I would consider worth in the $2-$5 range on a good day - unless the 1909 is a double die obverse, I can't really tell from pics

[James_OldeTowne]

AU-58 for the steel cent, and VF-30/environmental damage on the copper.