NGC "slabs" -- Anyone else think these look a little odd?

[brg5658]

I came across these this morning. They are from a seller in Greece. I'm NOT planning on bidding on them, but I'm just curious what people think. Are they knock-offs? Cracked and re-slabbed in someone's basement?

 

1918 Lincoln Commemorative

 

1923 Monroe Commemorative

 

 

[MarkFeld]

Yes, I suspect that the coins are counterfeit and have sent an email to NGC.

[J.A. Collection]

Considering this is what a picture of it on NGC's website looks like:

http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=1900009-022

 

Different holder and all.

[ultra-crepidarian]

This is an easy call: Definitely BOGUS. Fortunately nobody has bid on the coins yet. This seller has already been caught by E-bay buyer 3riverscanoes, read his feedback warning left on Sep-03-11 00:12. The Lincoln is imaged at NGC-1900009-022; compare the pictures – no match (see above). Why didn't the seller just copy the NGC pictures? The Monroe is not imaged at NGC-1667642-004 but the E-bay image is obviously not legitimate. However, since an MS 66 Monroe has a FMV of $5060, and with a starting bid of only $49.99, it is probably the better fake coin to buy of the two since it has a much higher fake profit potential.

[brg5658]

I have reported both as counterfeit on eBay. The guy also has another item listed that is probably also counterfeit, but the slab is a bit confusing to me. The format and the barcode, etc. looks like an NGC knock-off, but it's very poorly done and stated as NNC??

 

1592 Taler

 

 

[johnny9434]

what a shame to see that

[James_OldeTowne]

what a shame to see that

I wholeheartedly agree! Disgusting!

[Conder101]

The NNC is a basement slabber I've seen before.

 

I'm not sure how you can tell anything about the authenticity of the NGC slabs with the poor photos. I do agree the Illinois looks bad because of a font problem but shoot a genuine slab at an angle with bad lighting and with the lighting at an angle to make all the hologram details stand out (and it almost looks like through a blue filter.) and it will look funky too.

[brg5658]

They are clearly not genuine NGC slabs, because there is foam around the coin. It is possible they are a generic plastic slab with a broken out NGC coin and label put into the slab, but I'd have no idea how they would get the NGC hologram on the back. Look again and you can clearly see the porosity of the foam around the Commems.

[messydesk]

Generic, Chinese foam-insert holder of the old ANACS holder size. NGC labels printed from online pictures. Coins probably real.

[noow]

FAKE

[jom]

Why didn't the seller just copy the NGC pictures?

 

I dunno...maybe it was because of his high IQ and graduate degree from Clown College?

 

jom

[noow]

[bsshog40]

Looks like the listings were removed. Good work guys!!!

[Bill L]

Nice find, thanks for the heads up.

[Walkerfan]

Same as above. It looks like nothing I've ever seen. An obvious fake. Thanks for pointing it out.