Android Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=141971 Mr. Hall himself! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoot Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Yes, he has spoken, and now the whole PCGS forum has turned into a David Hall love-fest! I wish he'd shut up already!!! How quickly they forget the they've endured when they have a brief encounter with "greatness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Yes, I agree his thesis is < feces. Coolcoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVillageProwler Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Jeff, I can't believe how nauseating it's gotten over there. Were we like this when DWL first graced this site? (I don't recall, because he, John, Dena, et al, are here regularly and are a part of this community.) I'm a firm believer that the greater the competition amongst the major players, the better it'll be for the consumers (you and me!). But, I think it's too early to tell if David Hall would be able to maintain the feel-good that he's developed, and to turn it into something substantial. Personally, I could care less if DHall does continue his appearance there. I can't stand the focking arsehole. And, I've half a mind to ask him about the conflict of interest with CU being a grader, pricer and retailer of their own product. I would love to see competition with NGC thrive. I don't really care if it's PCGS or ANACS or whatever. But, I definitely do NOT wish DHall much success... EVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithdagen Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 I too wonder whether the love fest will be long term. The #1 man at PCGS just jumped ship and said that the #2 company was not only equal, but better. That is a huge blow for the image, and couldn't have come at a worse time considering the problems the parent company is having with their stock price performance. David Hall has no choice but to respond and strengthen his company's position. But hopefully, this move will let some more people realize that there is more than one top-tier grading service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVillageProwler Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Check out my new thread over there: LINK EVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 EVP, So how do you REALLY feel? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfuccione Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Great thread! I am also wondering if he is doing damage contol and after a while it will be the same as before or is this a wakeup call and they will be more rsponsive to the consumer? CHRIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVillageProwler Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I feel anger towards him. I feel that he has taken a great product and an important component of our industry, and he made it his own personal play thing. I feel that his actions have caused me to waste quite a bit of my money. And, I feel that he's only on the boards for a quick feel-good effort to quell the masses. EVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVillageProwler Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Chris, Maybe this will remind DH that he needs to sustain his actions... EVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 EVP, I don't think you are alone in your feelings. Your post across the street isn't getting quite the reaction I thought it would...yet! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishMike Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Time will tell what sort of reaction he gets. I actually thought more supporters would come out of the wood work, then did. I think that this indicates what I have been saying, that many of the collectors over there do and will continue to collect coins in PCGS predominantly for reasons other than any respect for PCGS other than how the market perceives the so called pricing premium on certain issues. Copper and moderns still carry a substantial premium. In any event it will be an interesting year for us. Totally off the subject, I read anacondas post this morning and so far I have been neutral on the guy, but this post made me sick to my stomach or is it the flu I am fighting off. Any one else have this reaction? Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradedollarnut Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Adrian is there for one reason only. And it isn't for the education of the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishMike Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I guess he doesn't get enough ego-stroking at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abmluce-migration Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Anacondas post was idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddick Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 You've got to admit though- there is that occassional nugget of truth. That's what makes him funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithdagen Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Nugget I kind of liked the questions posed in that post. Seemed very similar to the kinds of things that Greg brought up in his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishMike Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 yep even megalomaniacs make good points and can be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtrader3 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Where is this Anaconda guy's head (don't say, it was a rhetorical question). His statement of " Why don't you be the first to accept both PCGS and NGC coins" shows a deep and abiding stupidity. Where has this load been parked all this time, while all this controversy has been going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishMike Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Man, CalGold just ripped megalomanianaconda a new one on CU. Sometimes it pays to be a bystander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithdagen Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 It's a shame that people take time to rip someone like that they don't know personally and have never met. Adrian's a great guy who is extremely passionate about the hobby and just suffers from being as blunt as GMarguli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishMike Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 keith being blunt is one thing, but publicly humiliating a person who has a serious disease is quite another. Many of us have lost loved ones to mental illness, aka depression. He hopped way over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Yes, I agree 100% with that IrishMike, there is definately a difference in being blunt and making comments in very bad taste about someone else. Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddick Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Dragon- others get away with it all the time. Why punish ANACONDA just because he is better at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithdagen Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I've seen Greg say stuff as bad or worse at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 Whenever threads like the one being discussed come up, I always try to picture what would be said IN PERSON. Putting all the combatants in a room together face to face. It would make a good psychological study. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 It's really kinda sad and disturbing, but he has succeeded in quelling the David Hall love-fest, and turned it into an Adrian hate-fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishMike Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Pat when is the last time in the coin forum you saw a member openly poke cruel fun at someone who has a disease? I know you to be a sensitive guy, I hope you aren't condoning this kind of behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVillageProwler Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Folks, My feelings towards DH is unambiguous. It should surprise no one that as disgusted as I find Adrian, I am pleased that at least he has taken the spotlight away from DH. Call it a seredipitous turn of events... EVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
