My coins returned for Christmas... A pic of the bagged 85 O ,

[MAULEMALL]

I don't see it.

I'm not saying they are wrong but if someone could point out what I may be missingI would appreciate it..

And Merry Christmas

[Broc Mitchell]

Hard to tell from the pics but it looks like an old dip and some sort of sulfer deposits around the edges? The shades of blue and heavy look to the edge toning looks suspect, maybe heat induced?

[MAULEMALL]

Hard to tell from the pics but it looks like an old dip and some sort of sulfer deposits around the edges? The shades of blue and heavy look to the edge toning looks suspect, maybe heat induced?

It was bagged as Obv. Improperly cleaned..

If they thought it were AT I think they would have bagged it for that..

 

 

[CHABSENTIA]

My guess is improperly cleaned. Usually NGC gives a reason on the little blue body bag.

[BillJones]

I'd guess improperly cleaned. The obverse appears to have Mint State sharpness, but the coin is very dull. It appears that there is no luster under the toning, which indicates that the mint surface has been removed or impairted.

[Broc Mitchell]

Hard to tell from the pics but it looks like an old dip and some sort of sulfer deposits around the edges? The shades of blue and heavy look to the edge toning looks suspect, maybe heat induced?

It was bagged as Obv. Improperly cleaned..

If they thought it were AT I think they would have bagged it for that..

 

 

That very well may be the case as I recall from the answer to a question I asked a while back:

 

Hi Broc:

 

Thanks for your questions....

 

...In most cases of coins that cannot be graded, the most severe problem is noted on the tag. Our graders do note multiple problems on occasion. There are coins, to my understanding, that are artificially toned to hide surface problems such as improper cleaning. A coin described as artificially toned, and not graded by NGC, may also be improperly cleaned without being noted on the No Grade tag.

 

Although it does sound like if the cleaning outweighed possible AT they might mention the cleaning and leave it at that. I know many submitters agree it would be wonderful to get a full synopsis of problems on a BB coin for the price paid for that flip and insert.

 

Either way, at least, it appears that coin must be a looker in hand. Happy Holidays!

[Revenant]

There are several parallel horizontal lines, most notably across the cheak which would lead me to say improperly cleaned.

[jgrinz]

There are several parallel horizontal lines, most notably across the cheak which would lead me to say improperly cleaned.

 

I would agree as seen when Isolated from the rest of the coin. ..

 

[cpm9ball]

I'm confused! Why would you submit it for grading unless it was one of your grading certificate "freebies"?

 

Chris

[physics-fan3.14]

I don't really know, but the shinier spot under her chin is unusual. It might have been a spot removed.

[bsshog40]

There are several parallel horizontal lines, most notably across the cheak which would lead me to say improperly cleaned.

 

I agree here also with the small hairlines showing up and also looks like it's been dipped. As stated before, the TPG's really frown on the hairlines.

[MikeInFL]

Hairlines on the cheek would by my guess as to the cause.

 

Sorry to hear of your disappointment.

 

Merry Christmas, Maulemall...Mike

[Frank Provasek]

The luster has been polished off the face and the high points of the hair. This area shows as dark in the photo.