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I keep seeing a variation of this message on Twitter: “If I submit to TPG it comes back a MS63, but if a big dealer sends the same coin in it gets a 64 or 65.” Is there anything to this?

OK, NGC authenticated this coin as a Spanish Real from 1474-1504 at the time of Ferdinand V & Isabel I and from the Seville mint. https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6640400-019/45/ The strange thing is that on the cert page, they list it as (1497-1504)D SPAIN SEVILLE - SQUARE D FERDINAND V & ISABEL I REAL yet on the coin, they list it as (1497-1504)S SPAIN SEVILLE - FERDINAND V & ISABEL I REAL but in a cursory search I see that this is what that real should look like: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6674056 I personally think that this real looks more like it is a real from John I's time 1379-1390 but the obverse lettering does not seem to line up but it's hard to tell. Here is that real: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces104671.html What do the experts think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadōkaichin https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1841914 https://www.money.org/collector/eikyu-tsuho/blog/japanese-12-antique-coins-series-the-first-coin-the-wado-kaichin Looks like Wadō-kaihō (I think this is the oldest official Japanese coinage), first produced in 708 by order of Empress Genmei.

@Coinbuf Thanks for the recommendation to ask NGC support about the Constellatio. They were great. Here is feedback "We see this coin was not flagged to be a candidate for conservation as all coins submitted for grading our evaluated to see if they would be candidates for NCS services. This coin was not flagged for this which means this coin would not benefit from NCS services. We hope this information assisted you today. Have a nice weekend." At the Baltimore show this past week they had a specialist look at the Constellatio and 10 Cash -- Conservation will not change the grade away from 'details' on either coin. I decided to submit the 10 cash as they can try to stop any damage that might be continuing. NGC's customer service at the show and online have been excellent. fyi -- someone also pointed me to this: https://www.ngccoin.com/pdf/details_grading_brochure.pdf and it's very good.

I’m going to submit the 10 cash at the baltimore show this week and check the box and see what happens. I also pinged the help desk to ask about the constellatio. Thanks for all your help. I’ll follow up when I learn more. ps I also read here that they can remove artificial toning.

The history of Robert Morris is quite fascinating... He really drove the concept of decimal accounting and influenced Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson (who in turn influenced the U.S. Dollar)--as I understand it, both became champions of the decimal concept after examining Morris’s coins. This coin is part of that history and it just disappoints me that it's tagged with a word like 'damage' -- to me it diminishes what the coin represents...

The only thing i see on the constellatio is a touch off verdigris but it's hard to see without magnification. Can they / will they, remove verdigris? It's a shame this coin came back as damaged as it's such a great piece.

I've not used NGC's conservation services yet and I'm considering it with the following 2 coins. One graded with 'environmental damage' and one that is ungraded but has damage [A 10 cash Chong Ning Zhong Bao (Heavy Treasure) referenced on Hartill (page 151) 16.406, 7, 8 and 9.]. Would either of these coins be a good candidate?