dollarfan

is this about the same size and weight of a $5 gold half eagle?  based on size and weight it seems like it may be gold.  that makes me wonder why a non authentic piece wouldnt be much lighter.   how much would a piece like this be worth if it was confirmed genuine.   and does anyone else think it looks like gold?  it does seem to have alot of dents similar to some older pieces i have seen????  but then again the surface looks very porous.  

On 1/16/2022 at 2:55 PM, Coinbuf said:

If you are accessing your set on the old NGC registry system (that is where the custom sets are currently) that system does not allow for an automatic upload of any photos that NGC has taken of your coins.   Keep in mind that NGC does not have photos for every coin and those photos that do exist in the NGC system are slab shots only.   If you have ever used the NGC photo vision service those photos are not kept in the NGC system, NGC emails those photos to the person that submitted the coin and paid for the photo service, but they are not available to be directly linked.

You need to access the new registry from the NGC home page, your login credentials are the same as you used on the old system when you created your custom set.  Once logged in you can use the tabs on the left hand side to navigate to your competitive coins.   This will bring up a list of all your coins in your inventory including those in your custom set.   Once the list is up the first column will be for images.  You click on the first image (it will show a + in the window if there is no photo there) and a dropdown menu will appear with two choices.  You click on add NGC image and the system will retrieve the slab photos of the coin if they were taken by NGC when the coin was graded.   The second option is to add your own images.  If in the future you decide to add your own images it is very simple to do so, follow the same procedure but if there is a photo already you will get a third option in the dropdown of replacing the image.

Once you do this for each line in your inventory (there is not a faster way that I am aware of) those photos should automatically show up in your custom set.   It can be done using the old system but it is a very time intensive activity and just way easier to do on the new system.   If you use those coins again for another set either custom or competitive those photos will automatically be shown in the new set for every coin in your inventory that you have done this for, you will not have to do this again unless you want to change the photo.

Hope this helps.

thanks coinbuf.   i have slowly been messing with it on NGC and other site.  I got 3 dmpl carsons in my custom album over the course of 2 beers lol.   its gonna be a long haul.  i will fill you in on my CAC submission journey last 6 months.  over 400 mostly cc's and peace and batting almost 50 percent green.  will start a new thread when i got time to take some pics.  no golds.

hello again,  still dabbling on where/how is the best way to organize coins.  i created a custom set in NGC and it seemed it would not allow me to post the NGC cert verification photos to the set?  please advise if I am doing something wrong.  thanks

ebay seller      xvpvd_10   it got removed real fast and was from a while back

What I was looking at appeared to be right within the pcgs registry?? 

Thanks Just Bob!  Toooo funny huh??

If you know Carson city Morgan's then the tite says it all.  If someone can snag a pic and post  then please do.   Unreal

I have never entered any coins into a registry but on the other site it shows an option to put your coins pictures into a "set" that makes it look like they are in a "digital"  album. It seemed like something that would be popular but perhaps it no longer exists. 

Hello.   Has anyone used the digital album software?  Does it allow showing CAC sticker?  I'm considering entering my collection into something for viewing and organization but knowing it will be an arduous task I am not sure where to start. Thanks for any advice and if you can display CAC, a picture would be greatly appreciated. 

5 hours ago, Woods020 said:

I wouldn’t touch it. I don’t foresee it going to a higher grade of regraded, and possibly the opposite. It could just be my view, but there is possibly some wear on the hair around the face and impaired luster for sure in that area. Could just as well come back AU potentially and you would kick yourself. 
 

moral of the story: Little to nothing to gain and more to lose. Leave it as is. 

thanks to all for the great inputs.  i am absolutely definately 100 percent going to leave this coin alone!  if and when i get around to selling a few items this would be in the first batch.  As i have been badly burned before buying raw coins when i was a total newb.  (i have learned ALOT here) i would simply list it as  1921 PEACE DOLLAR,  old PCI holder and state in the description that PCI has been noted as being unreliable in the past.  the 62 grade looks correct to me and that there are no obvious signs of cleaning.  then i will sleep good at night and based on what 1921 peace are going for i would say it would bring 700+ EEEEAAASSSYYY with a dozen really good closeup shots listed.  i havent listed any coins for sale before, just bullion, but i know this for a fact......good pictures sell good coins (better than this one probably)  thanks everyone!!  

24 minutes ago, VKurtB said:

I would be loathe to touch this. Even my favorite “kinder gentler dip”, which would take this blast white, would create something far less natural looking. This is a 62 because of some pretty harsh contact marks.

thanks for the reply VkurtB!  yes she has taken some hits.  so far coinbuf's suggestion of just keeping it in its current holder and selling it as grade unknown.  does she appear to be cleaned?  i am feeling like 62 is an accurate grade im just not sure about the cleaned part.  and she has a flaaaaaaaat soft strike.     what to do?

wow,  thanks to you coinbuf my pics are getting much better !!

1 hour ago, Coinbuf said:

The color is the easiest to remedy but the areas that I have circled below are what would concern me about cracking the coin out of the current holder.   It may just be the lighting/angle and such but both of these spots look odd, the lower area around the date looks very much like hairlines/cleaning/thumbed as the lines do not go under the numbers and the numbers have a halo around them where the patch comes up to them.   Again that may just be a lighting affect but maybe not.

The ten digit holders were from the earlier years after PCI bought out Hallmark and many considered PCI to be a fairly consistent and conservative company during that time.  Of course there are always outliers during any grading timeframe/ownership, when the cert numbers went to 14 digits is when that reputation began to slide in the mind of many in the market.  Its your call but I think in your situation I would sell this as is and find a replacement that you like better as opposed to cracking and submitting.   Far less risk for you and there is a chance to realize a profit on the sale as there are collectors that do look for the old slabs.

Best of luck with what ever you decide to do.

13 minutes ago, Coinbuf said:

Your photos do seem to indicate some possible patches of hairlines, very noticeable around the date and above the crown in the full coin photo.  How many numbers in the certification number on the back of the slab, 10 or 14?  The tabaco coloring may have been from a dip that was not fully neutralized or it may be not, difficult to determine the depth of the tone in the photos.

hello coinbuf  the number is 6149244018  so 10 digits,  yeah the color is weird as it seems just like "a golden tint"  not in any particular place.  these have been going thru the roof so im wondering if i should just crack and send and keep my fingers crossed.  i am thinking the golden cast is from an improperly/incomplete rinse after a dip.  it still has luster and doesnt have that overdipped look we all know but im pretty sure it crossed paths with a mad scientist and a jug of EZEST in its past

hello again all,  was digging and found this which i purchased a couple years ago when i was getting into Peace dollars.  i paid 250 dollars and at the time didnt realize the history of the PCI slab (company).  It is not very evident in the pictures but the entire coin has a gold like shading to it (almost like a light nicotine stain look)  I find the gold color very unpleasing.  Is this color just the start of retoning after being dipped?  After i looked at this closely to see if it had been cleaned or not and would perhaps straight grade at NGC i was riding the fence.  it has some hairlines? but so do all the other 1921 peace dollars i have in 62 and 63 and 64.  please take a look and see what you think.  @VKurtB if you read this I will send this coin to you if you think the golden color can be removed.  Please advise, sorry for rambling.

im finding that CC 1890s are few and far between so far.  these 2 are nice lookers.

1 hour ago, J P Mashoke said:

Looking Good Dollarfan, you got some real nice stuff there.. If you don't mind ? I got to ask How much does it cost on average to submit for a CAC grading and I have heard a Bean may increase the value as much as 15%  

hello JP,  as @Coinbuf said if you are approved to submit  by CAC it is 16 bucks per coin that gets stickered.  but the real cost comes from registered shipping back and forth and some handling fees.  i havent been tracking it closely but i would say the "average" total cost to get a green bean for me is about 30 -35 dollars once it is said and done.  it would be cheaper if you sent a batch (i have been sending 19 per batch just due to being able to fit into an NGC box easy) that has a bunch of green beans.  so far i have three submissions graded.  8 out of 19 green, 8 out of 19 green, and the third one which i dont have yet 7 out of 19 green.  i am finding it is very hard to break 50 percent and some of the non-CAC coins seem amazing to me.  I like the CAC coins alot.  As far as value, im not exactly sure but i do know that (for example)  the 34S peace CAC would sell at full book price plus some easily based on other sales i have seen.  some of the other lower value coins might not sell for a huge premium but i would say the 35 cost per eliminates anyone from screaming the coin totally is a dog.  It has been exciting and fun to try to figure out exactly what traits they like in a coin.  But, i think i grade like mr magoo!

hello again,  i got my second CAC submission back.  once again i got 8 out of 19 coins green beaned with no golds.  A couple pictured i was hoping for to get beaned and got good results.

Just now, dollarfan said:

way to go hoghead!  with a clean clean pretty face like that im not surprised at 65.  that is a very nice example.  

and the fields are very clean (like 66 clean??)

way to go hoghead!  with a clean clean pretty face like that im not surprised at 65.  that is a very nice example.  

hello.  it is impossible to tell from pictures alone whether or not a coin has been cleaned.  1921 peace are funny sometimes as some earlier (i think that is correct @RWB is an expert on these and will hopefully see this post) strikes seem almost lifeless due to the new dies.   this may be one of those examples as it does seem a little lifeless.   based on my personal experiences with this date this one appears to be a little overdipped a long time ago and has darkened up since then.  It is just impossible to tell via those pics/  sorry if that doesnt help much but their are others who know this coin inside and out.