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Sandon

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  1. Welcome to the NGC chat board. I have been collecting coins for over fifty years. I have never attempted to scan the barcode on a grading service holder and have never heard of anyone doing so before. We generally use the grading services' certificate verification applications to make sure that the serial number on the holder corresponds to the description on the label. It is possible that the barcode on this somewhat older (c.2001-08) NGC holder was for internal use and requires special equipment or software to scan. (The newest NGC holder that was just introduced and newer PCGS holders contain a chip designed to be scanned.) You may wish to post this inquiry on the "Ask NGC/NCS" forum for a response from the NGC staff. If you are concerned about the NGC holder being counterfeit or tampered with and the coin it contains being counterfeit or overgraded, your best defense is to acquire your own basic knowledge of authentication and grading. Based on what I can see from the photos, this appears to be a genuine late date lettered edge Capped Bust half dollar that has been reasonably graded XF 40 by grading service standards. What print and online resources have you consulted to learn about coins?
  2. Your 1919-S Lincoln cent is a well-circulated example in approximately Very Good condition, with a retail list value of less than a dollar. It has exactly the appearance a circulated copper alloy coin should have, which is a dull chocolate brown. It shouldn't be "shiny", and there is nothing to "restore". The only copper coins that should be bright are uncirculated pieces that have been carefully handled and retain their original mint color. The only ones that should be "shiny" are unworn brilliant proofs. Knowledgeable collectors seek coins with original, unimpaired surfaces and shun coins that have been "cleaned", polished, buffed or otherwise tampered with by chemical or abrasive means. Such coins that would otherwise be worth submitting to grading services are given "details" grades and trade at a discount, frequently a deep one, and some are virtually unsaleable. Unfortunately, many otherwise desirable coins have been ruined by such mistreatment at the hands of ignorant or unscrupulous people. Experts, such as those at NCS, can sometimes "conserve" coins by removing from their surfaces foreign substances that have not chemically bonded with the coin metal. It is best for all others to refrain from attempts to "improve" the appearance of a coin.
  3. 1937-S Washington quarter, PCGS graded MS 64 (looks nicer):
  4. This 1976-D Variety 2, which PCGS graded MS 65, has some reddish color as well as some bluish overtones, although these colors don't show up too well in my photos either:
  5. The silver clad proof Eisenhower dollars dated from 1971 to 1974 that were issued in the brown boxes aren't regarded as "varieties" and are generally considered to be part of the standard 32-piece set that doesn't include the 1972 reverse variants. Modern collectors regard proofs as separate issues from their circulation quality counterparts. However, you can define your collection by your own tastes. You don't have to buy what you don't want.
  6. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Yes, it is absolutely normal. Both 1980 and 1981 uncirculated coin a.k.a. "mint" sets contain SBA dollars from all three mints. The 1979 "mint" set didn't include the "S" mint coins, but they were included in separate three-coin SBA sets that were available from the mint for 1979 and 1980.
  7. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Your photos are too blurry to see whether your 1958 Lincoln cent exhibits any form of doubling, but it is definitely not the extremely rare 1958 doubled die (FS-001 or DDO-001) listed in the "Redbook" and other references, of which only three are known to exist and which exhibits clear, crisp doubling on "LIBERTY" and the motto as shown in these images from the NGC Coin Explorer: NGC only recognizes this rare variety in its VarietyPlus listing and does not list any other 1958 cent varieties. See Lincoln Cents, Wheat Reverse (1909-1958) | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com). NGC generally only attributes varieties that are listed in VarietyPlus. Based on the photos, your coin would grade no higher than MS 64 RD or MS 65 RD and would be worth substantially less than what it would cost you to submit it for grading at NGC or any other reputable grading service. In answer to your question on your duplicate post, no, you should not submit this coin to a grading service unless you want to waste your money.
  8. Here's another coin ripped from a 2000 clad proof set, a 2000-S half dollar NGC graded PF 70 Ultra Cameo. I also paid $9.09 for this coin despite the $70 NGC Price Guide value. There is a small shiny nick on the left side of Kennedy's ear visible even under 5x magnification, though hard to see in the photo, as well as a few other shiny spots on the devices on both sides:
  9. I can show you some modern U.S. coins graded "70", of which NGC and PCGS have graded millions--all proofs, commemoratives, other collectors' issues, or bullion coins--but I can't show you "the perfection", because I've never seen such a coin that exhibited "perfection". I buy these coins already "slabbed" solely for registry set purposes for well below their list prices and almost always for much less than what it would cost for me to have them third-party graded. Here's a 2000-S proof Lincoln cent graded PF 70 Ultra Cameo that I bought last year for $9.09 (part of an 11 slab for $100 deal). This single coin lists $100 in this grade in the NGC Price Guide. Although it's hard to see in the photos, there is a series of small nicks near the truncation of Lincoln's bust and to the right of the "V.D.B." on the truncation. These nicks are visible at the 5x magnification supposedly used by NGC and quite obvious at the 10x at which I usually evaluate coins. There are also some raised plating defects in those smooth looking mirror fields.
  10. I assume that the Morgan and Peace dollars that will be graded under the NGCX scale will be mostly the very common dates in common grades that are usually hawked by mass marketers. Such coins usually grade no better than MS 63 or 64, which translates to 9.3 or 9.4 on the NGCX scale. I think that they're going to have difficulty with this, because "collectors" of such mass marketed items seek the "perfect 10", which is common among modern bullion coins and collectors' issues (equivalent of a "Sheldon" "70") but non-existent among 1878-1935 Morgan and Peace dollars. Coins in NGCX holders have little or no appeal to serious coin collectors and numismatists. So far, they can't even be included in the NGC Registry. I regularly attend several smaller and one major coin show and have yet to see a single coin in an NGCX holder. As I previously stated, it would have made sense for the NGCX labels to have included the adjectival and Sheldon scale grades as well as the NGCX equivalents.
  11. 1913 Proof Barber half dollar, PCGS graded PR 64: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  12. 1942 Proof "Mercury" dime, PCGS graded PR 66. The holder bears a green CAC sticker:
  13. 1903-O Morgan dollar, PCGS graded MS 64, purchased from the late Jack Lee at the 2000 ANA convention:
  14. As others have stated, your coin is a 1982-D large date 95% copper (brass) cent. This is the most common variety of 1982-D cent, and it has an official weight of 3.11 grams. The rare variety, discovered only a few years ago and very few known to exist, is also composed of 95% copper but has a small date as shown in the above illustrations. The 1982-D was also coined with both large and small dates in the then new copper-plated zinc composition, which has an official weight of 2.5 grams. Neither of these is rare either.
  15. FYI, the term for the "heads" side of the coin is "obverse", not "adverse".
  16. Without an enlarged photo of the coin in the ANACS holder, there is no way to determine whether it bears any resemblance to your coin. It is possibly a new variety that has yet to be listed on the authoritative websites or references. Doubleddie.com lists one DDO variety for 1962-D cents and Variety Vista lists two, both minor doubled dies, neither of which seems to match your coin. See the following links for descriptions and photos: https://www.doubleddie.com/730634.html http://www.varietyvista.com/09d WQ Vol 4 DC/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/DDO 1962-D.htm There are numerous sellers on ebay and other websites who, whether out of ignorance or fraudulent intent, ask outrageous prices for minor varieties or mint errors. Just because someone asks $9,995 for something does not mean that it would ever actually sell for that price or anything like it to a knowledgeable collector. Minor doubled dies and others not listed in the Redbook or other major references such as The Cherrypickers' Guide to Rare Die Varieties usually only sell for a few dollars or tens of dollars. You could buy a 1955 doubled die cent, the most famous and popular doubled die coin, in MS 64 RB, the grade of the ANACS coin, for less. It currently lists $5,150 on the NGC Price Guide. Actual sales records of the major numismatic auction houses, which are listed on the PCGS and NGC websites, are a better guide to the actual values of coins.
  17. Based on your photos, this 1962-D cent does not appear to me to show any form of doubling, die doubling or otherwise. There is evidence of slight die deterioration a.k.a. "die crumbling" inside and on some of the letters in the motto. I don't think that ANACS or any other grading service would attribute this coin as a doubled die or other die variety. You may receive other opinions. If you do submit it to a grading service, please inform us as to the results. No one has suggested that the coin is double struck, meaning that the planchet (coin blank) was struck twice by the dies. This would be classified as a mint error rather than a die variety. I and @Greenstang were referring to a worthless form of doubling that is alternatively known as "strike doubling", "machine doubling", or "mechanical doubling", which results from a die that is not itself doubled but is loose in the press, causing a "shelf-like" secondary image that has less depth than the primary image. See the following resources for this and other worthless forms of doubling as compared to true doubled dies: Double Dies vs. Machine Doubling | NGC (ngccoin.com) https://www.doubleddie.com/144822.html https://www.doubleddie.com/144843.html https://www.doubleddie.com/144864.html
  18. Welcome to the NGC chat board. I hope that you haven't already shipped this submission, as in all likelihood you will be wasting your money. If a variety isn't already listed on NGC VarietyPlus, it is extremely unlikely that NGC will attribute it. For it to be attributed as a "discovery specimen", it would likely have to be a major doubled die that is visible to the naked eye or at least under low magnification. Such a coin minted in 1962 would likely have already been discovered. Here are two suggestions: 1. Have you compared your coin with the descriptions and images of minor doubled dies on doubleddie.com, https://www.doubleddie.com/, and Variety Vista, http://www.varietyvista.com/? Most of these varieties are of low value, but they are collectible if they interest you. Other grading services (PCGS and/or ANACS) may be willing to attribute and encapsulate them, if you consider it worth the cost. 2. You can also (or alternatively) post clear cropped, photos of the entire obverse and reverse of the coin and close-ups of the areas that you think show die doubling on the "Newbie Coin Collecting Questions" forum on this chat board, and our members will provide their opinions. Please be advised that most of the purported "doubled dies" we see turn out to be worthless forms of doubling such as strike, machine, or mechanical doubling (step-like images on different levels) or die deterioration doubling (fuzzy or ghost-like images near the primary image). A doubled die generally shows crisp extra images that are at about the same level as the primary image, with "notching" at the junctures of doubled letters or numbers.
  19. Welcome to the NGC chat board. As others have stated, this Morgan dollar exhibits rim damage, not a mint error. The coin is also heavily circulated, with only Very Good or so details based on your photo of the reverse, and based on the unnatural color has been improperly "cleaned". These are large, heavy silver coins and frequently acquire this and other types of damage in circulation. In the future, please show us cropped photos of both sides of a coin about which you have questions.
  20. 1874 three cent nickel, NGC graded MS 64 with an obverse "strikethrough" above Liberty's head: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  21. Okay, here's the best I can do on this topic. This is probably the ugliest coin in my collection, a scarce 1794 "Head of '93" large cent in a PCGS "Genuine" holder. The cataloguer described this coin as having VG details, and you can read the date and lettering, but it resembles a meteor fragment perhaps more than it does a coin. I would give it a net grade of Poor to Fair. It was attributed as an S18b, although I don't know how the "b" was determined, as the older PCGS holder precludes a clear view of the edge: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  22. 1884 three cent nickel, PCGS graded PR 64: Photos courtesy of Stacks Bowers Galleries.
  23. We have an old expression that goes back to at least the 1950s, BUY THE BOOK BEFORE THE COIN! Nowadays, this includes online resources as well, but certain print resources, especially the "Redbook", a grading guide, and a subscription to a current price guide, are absolutely essential to anyone who wants to be successful as a coin collector. You should find these two forum topics helpful: