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Sandon

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  1. Welcome to the NGC chat board. This is clearly damage. Based on the photos, it appears that someone drilled or punched a hole into this 1936 Buffalo nickel and then filled the hole with glue or some other reddish substance. Soaking the coin in acetone might remove this substance, though a holed common date coin would be of little value.
  2. An overdate (or a doubled die) is categorized as a die variety, not as a mint error, so you should have checked "VarietyPlus" on the submission form, not "Mint Error". See Variety vs. Mint Error | NGC (ngccoin.com). You should always check "VarietyPlus", which lists all of the known varieties that NGC will attribute, before submitting, and note the variety on the submission form. I think it was unfair for NGC not to attribute this coin just because the wrong box was checked (if that is what happened), as you paid the same $18 fee. I recommend contacting NGC customer service to see if any accommodation can be made. You should be able to resubmit the coin in its current holder and at least not have to pay the grading fee again. Edit: Per VarietyPlus, there is no fee required to attribute the 1942-D, 2 over 1 "Mercury" dime, so you should be able to argue that the coin should have been attributed as part of the grading process and the label should be corrected without charge. See Mercury Dimes (1916-1945) | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com). In the future, please crop your photos so they give us a better view of the coin and show as little as possible of the surrounding surface, like these photos of an example of the (Philadelphia) 1942, 2 over 1.
  3. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Please note that the NGC Registry forum is for questions relating specifically to the registry. Your topic would receive better attention if posted in the "Newbie Coin Collecting Questions" forum or the "U.S., World, and Ancient Coins" forum. Without photos, preferably of the full obverse and reverse of the coin, it really isn't possible for us to understand what the "markings" to which you are referring look like. I don't even know whether your 1972-S Eisenhower dollar is the proof or uncirculated version. I'm unclear as to whether you're referring to a single 1972-S or to a 1971-S as well. The proofs that came in brown boxes and hard plastic holders of all dates from 1971-74 often developed a bluish, whitish or yellowish haze, and the uncirculated coins of the same dates that came in blue envelopes and soft plastic holders often developed spots or some brownish tarnish-type "toning". Coins in grading service holders can also tone or otherwise change in appearance over time. I assume that by the coin being "professionally cleaned" by NGC, you mean that it was "conserved" by NGC's affiliate NCS. It's hard for me to understand how these common coins would be worth even the minimum $25 conservation fee in addition to grading and related fees unless the submitter was sure that they would achieve unusually high grades.
  4. 1952-S Washington-Carver commemorative half dollar (mintage 8,006), NGC graded MS 66 notwithstanding heavy abrasions on Carver's face:
  5. Based on the photo, this coin does appear to be a 1942-D, 2 over 1, "Mercury" dime, but I would also appreciate seeing photos of each full side of the coin. Both the 1942, 2 over 1 variety and the less obvious 1942-D, 2 over 1 variety were presumably created accidentally at the Philadelphia mint late in 1941 when dies for both years were being prepared, and obverse dies that had received blows from a 1941 dated hub then received blows from a 1942 dated hub. The "4" on the 1942 dated hub was had a slightly different shape with a longer upright and appears doubled on both coins. These varieties have been classified as doubled dies as well as overdates, although a doubled die typically results from blows to create a die by the same hub in different positions.
  6. @JDBradford--Welcome to the NGC chat board. It is better to start a new topic on this or the "Newbie Coin Collecting Questions" forum when you have a question about a specific coin. Mint records indicate that 1886 copper nickel three cent pieces were only struck as proofs, so your coin would be classified as a circulated proof. NGC Certificate Verification more accurately describes it as "PF 40". See Verify NGC Certification | NGC (ngccoin.com). The NGC census only lists the 1886 as a proof and currently shows 23 pieces numerically graded in circulated grades from Fine through AU 58. See Nickel Three Cents (1865-1889) | Coin Census Population Report | NGC (ngccoin.com).
  7. Based on the photos, this is simply a normal though worn 1982-D large date cent. Most of these were made in brass (95% copper, 5% zinc) alloy, but a sizeable number were also made in the then new copper-plated zinc composition. Both are common and have no collector value in this condition. The brass pieces have a better "ring" when dropped on certain surfaces. This infographic below shows the different types of 1982 cents made for circulation. Only the 1982-D small date brass (copper), struck accidentally on leftover blanks (an eighth variety), would be valuable, but only two have been discovered so far.
  8. Welcome to the NGC chat board. No, these coins are not worth submitting to a third-party grading service, which is what I assume you mean by "having them graded." Before you even think about submitting coins to grading services, it is essential that you have a good understanding of how to grade and otherwise evaluate coins yourself. Although these Lincoln cents appear to be uncirculated, they are very common dates of which many uncirculated bags and rolls were saved. They have abrasions, carbon spots, and other issues that would likely result in grades of no higher than MS 64 RD (RB in at least the case of the 1956) and would be worth no more than a few dollars each. The NGC "Economy" tier grading fee for each of these coins would be $23, to which membership and processing fees and shipping and insurance costs would also be added. Such coins may be collected and enjoyed in coin albums or other appropriate holders. If you are interested in learning about and collecting U.S. coins, we can direct you to appropriate print and online resources. You only need to ask.
  9. While your 1966 Special Mint Set dime is clearly not struck from a doubled die reverse, I think that it is more likely an example of common strike doubling, also known as machine or mechanical doubling, than it is of die deterioration doubling. The photos are somewhat overexposed, but the secondary image appears to be shallow and shelf-like, which is indicative of strike doubling, which results from a die that is loose in the press rather than from doubling in the die itself (a doubled die) or from a deteriorated die (ghostly secondary images). Both strike doubling and die deterioration doubling are forms of "worthless doubling" that, unlike doubled dies, generally have no collector value. Coins struck from doubled dies generally exhibit crisp, clear doubling, with both images on about the same level and "notching" between the images. You may find the following resources helpful in learning how to distinguish doubled dies from the far more common forms of (worthless) doubling: Double Dies vs. Machine Doubling | NGC (ngccoin.com) https://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html and links therein on mechanical doubling (a.k.a. strike or machine doubling), die deterioration doubling, and abrasion doubling. It is unlikely that there would be a significant doubled die variety on a 1966 Special Mint Set coin that has not already been discovered. Most significant varieties are listed and usually illustrated on NGC VarietyPlus. See Roosevelt Dimes (1946-Date) | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com) for Roosevelt dime varieties. Less significant (and sometimes controversial) varieties are listed on doubleddie.com and varietyvista.com.
  10. 1873 with arrows Liberty Seated quarter dollar, ANACS graded XF 40 (old small holder):
  11. If the quarter is thin and underweight, the likely explanation is that it was damaged by acid or some other corrosive chemical, which would also explain the weak, uneven lettering, odd looking surfaces, thin rims, and what appears to be some of its copper core showing through. If the reeding on the edge is weak or the coin is smaller than normal in diameter, these factors would also be indications of acid damage in these circumstances. See https://www.error-ref.com/acid-shrunk-coins/. (The official weight of a clad quarter is 5.67 grams, with a tolerance of 0.227 gram providing for a minimum weight of 5.443 grams.) This coin does not resemble an error coin of this type that would be underweight, such as one struck from a thin planchet or one missing part of the outer clad layer. See https://www.error-ref.com/rolled-thin-planchets/, https://www.error-ref.com/partial-clad-layer-before-strike/. The cent does not resemble any error that I have seen in over fifty years as a collector. The fact that the anomaly is on both sides and shows the struck design underneath indicates that it did not occur when the coin was struck. The study of mint errors is an advanced topic in numismatics that requires background knowledge, especially of how coins are manufactured. The error-ref.com site to which I have referred is fairly comprehensive but may be difficult to understand without some background and experience. For generally correct information about mint errors at an introductory level, see the following: Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 1 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 2 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 3 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 4 | NGC (ngccoin.com) Variety vs. Mint Error | NGC (ngccoin.com)
  12. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Neither of these coins appears to exhibit a mint error. The 2014-D Shenandoah quarter was most likely coated or painted with some substance, and the 1977-D cent may have been struck hard with a blunt object or subjected to high heat. Such events would have occurred after the coins left the mint. Contrary to what you may have seen on the Internet, it is highly unusual to find any coin with a significant mint error in circulation. Most such pieces are intercepted by bank or counting house personnel and sold to coin dealers before entering circulation, and in 2002 the mint instituted procedures that have kept most such pieces from leaving the mint in the first place. It's O.K. to keep on looking, but don't expect to find anything of value.
  13. 1935-D Texas Centennial commemorative half dollar, PCGS graded MS 65 in old green label holder:
  14. Please refer to the following forum topics to locate basic print and online resources from which you may learn about U.S. coins:
  15. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Your 1997-P dime exhibits a minor error or quality control issue known as a "collar clash". See https://www.error-ref.com/collar-clash/. These are rather common and of little or no collector value but still an interesting find. If you are "new [to] this", it is very important that you learn basic information about coins before getting into advanced topics such as mint errors, which require an understanding of how coins are made and significant examples of which are almost never found in circulation. Do you have such basic resources such as a "Red Book", a grading guide, and a subscription to a current price guide?
  16. Welcome to the NGC chat board. 2008-S Presidential dollars were issued only as proofs in mint sealed proof sets, from one of which, unfortunately, this coin has been removed. The edge lettering on proofs is created by a "tripartite collar" that is in three segments that close together from the sides as the coin is struck. It is normal for there to be a raised bit of metal at each of the seams where the segments come together, as on your coin. You don't see such seams on Presidential and other small dollar coins with lettered edges struck for circulation because their edge lettering is created by edge lettering dies that are applied after the coin is struck. When you post photos of coins about which you have questions, please post clear cropped photos of each full side of the coin as well as pertinent closeups. Additionally, you should not touch a coin with your bare hands, except by the edges if you must. Skin oils can be corrosive to coin metal, especially to coins that are largely composed of copper and zinc such as these small dollar coins, and the mirror surfaces of proofs are easily damaged. I recommend soaking this coin in acetone or at least rinsing it with clean (preferably distilled) water and patting (not rubbing) it dry with a clean cloth or tissue as soon as possible to prevent the appearance of devaluing fingerprints and spots. Assuming that the coin is still in mint condition, which we can't tell without better photos, it would have a retail (dealer sell) value per Coin World as a typical, uncertified proof of any of the Presidential dollars of that year of $4.50 or so.
  17. Welcome to the NGC chat board. No, this coin is one of the over 6.8 billion 1990 cents struck at the Philadelphia mint. The rare "No S" proofs were issued in a small minority of mint sealed 1990 proof sets, and to my knowledge none has ever been found in circulation. Proofs would have mirror fields and frosted devices and lettering that are absent from this coin.
  18. The 2000 "Wide AM" cent is a nice circulation find but not a particularly valuable one. I purchased an uncertified Brilliant Uncirculated example at a coin show a few months ago for $5. Please note that it is best to limit each topic to the coin referred to in the topic title. We're still awaiting full, cropped photos of each side of your purported 1996-D "Wide AM" cent, which I understand is not a known variety. The photos should look something like these (of a 1991-D):
  19. As an update (or perhaps epilog) to this topic, I recently submitted all four of the gold coins that were saved by my grandparents to NGC. The results were as follows: NGC graded the 1906-D Liberty Head half eagle MS 62. My grade would have been no higher than AU 55, as the coin has high point "rub" and only partial luster. Having been used in commerce, the coin is "circulated" in at least the literal sense. NGC graded the 1909-D Indian Head half eagle AU 55. The coin has little luster in the fields and rub on the Indian's cheek. My own grade would have been Choice Extremely Fine (45) to AU (50), but in this case the difference between third-party grading service standards and my own isn't that great. The 1907 "Indian" Head eagle was the unpleasant surprise of the submission. I had expected a "details" grade of AU (possibly Uncirculated) Details due to the coin's obvious rim damage. NGC recommended that this coin be subjected to NCS "conservation" on account of alleged "residue", which would have cost another $58. Having had quite unsatisfactory results from the previous "conservation" of a much lower value coin by NCS, I declined subjecting a family heirloom to such an experiment, so the coin was returned to me unencapsulated. I carefully inspected the coin both before submitting and on receiving it back from NGC and cannot find evidence of any "residue" on the coin other than perhaps a small amount of dirt or toning that was also visible on the coins that were encapsulated. (The obverse photo I posted shows a small dark area in one of the recesses of Liberty's hair, but the coin itself shows bare gold in that area.) I'll try soaking it in acetone but don't expect much change in it. I'll probably return it to the square lucite holder in which I stored it for about the last fifty years. NGC graded the 1910-S "Indian" Head eagle AU 55. My own grade would have been no higher than XF 45. The coin has more wear on Liberty's hair and the eagle's wing than I would have thought permissible for an AU grade, and the coin has only traces of luster.
  20. 1927 Peace dollar, ANACS graded MS 62 in old small holder:
  21. You can't reasonably compare a coin made for circulation long ago and distributed in bulk, such as a 1916-D "Mercury" dime, with a noncirculating legal tender piece made and issued as a collector's item, such as either of the pieces you are hawking, of which virtually all minted still exist in superb gem condition.
  22. If you are offering the coins in the links for sale, your topic should have been posted in the "Coin Marketplace" forum and in accordance with its guidelines. My answer to your question would be "neither", as I think that new collectors should "buy the book before the coin" and do a good bit of reading numismatic references and learning how to evaluate coins before spending substantial monies on them. For that matter, one can purchase a very nice uncirculated example of an actual "Mercury" dime for a lot less than the mint's computer generated 2016 reproduction in gold.
  23. I can see scratches and abrasions in the fields of your coin notwithstanding the poor quality of the photos. If you are seeking our help and advice, I don't understand why you knowingly posted overexposed photos and are wording your posts in un-punctuated jargon. For comparison, here are somewhat better photos of a 1967 Kennedy half dollar that PCGS graded MS 64 and for which I paid all of $10, letting someone else take the loss by spending substantially more in grading fees and related expenses:
  24. Welcome to the NGC chat board. It is refreshing when someone appears to have actually found a significant coin in circulation, as this is not the case in the vast majority of the claims of this sort that are posted on these forums. Based on the photos, I would say that this is a 1992-D "Close AM" cent. I would grade the coin in the AU 55 to 58 range, although the scratch in front of Lincoln's chin could result in a "Details" grade. (It is also possible that a third-party grading service could give it a low "red and brown" mint state grade.) As the coin's surfaces are likely contaminated with skin oils and other substances to which it has been exposed, I recommend that the coin be soaked briefly in acetone or at least rinsed with clean (preferably distilled) water and patted (not rubbed) dry. It is not possible to predict what this coin would sell for, but based on Coin World Values and the PCGS Price Guide--NGC does not provide values for this variety--the retail value for a 1992-D "Close AM" cent in my expected grade range, assuming that it is not "Details" graded would be approximately $1,700 to $2,200. See https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/lincoln-cent-modern/47/grades-25-60/ms?pn=2. If you are not familiar with submitting coins to grading services, you may wish to submit it with the advice of and through a reputable dealer who handles such submissions. NGC has a dealer locator at Find Coin Shops & Dealers | Coin Dealer Locator | NGC (ngccoin.com). You may also wish to check for a dealer in your area who is a member of the Professional Numismatists Guild (the PNG) at https://www.pngdealers.org/. If you want to submit the coin to NGC yourself--you will need a paid NGC membership--you should carefully review the various topics under the "Submit" tab on the NGC home page. I would submit this coin under the "Standard" ($40) tier for coins valued at up to $3,000 and be sure to check "VarietyPlus" and pay the additional $18 "VarietyPlus" fee.
  25. Welcome to the NGC chat board. Please post clear, cropped photos of each full side of this coin. Otherwise, it would not be possible for us to evaluate your claim.