Henri Charriere

After-Action Report Eighty-six posts spread over three pages in just a week's time. I don't see the margin here. How was this spirited exchange -- rowdy dowdy, beneficial to anyone. For the benefit of senior members, you cannot post a comment until you become a member and to become a member, you have to pay your dues. I fail to see how a member got his money' worth by purchasing a mystery roll of presumably unsearched coins (of different denominations and sizes + a gold-plated coin) all together of which set him back a significant amount of money. Then he lapsed into using street language as his command of the English language was poor. Who won? Who lost? Truly sad. I do hope he is going to be unable to fill out a submission form. That would make his foray into coin collecting truly tragic. 🐓

It gives me great pleasure to inform you you're in too deep, and there is no way you can devise a graceful a way to extricate yourself from the hobby, coin shows, roadside stands, and traveling by air or road.

Your topic and post inspired me to post a related thread provocatively posed as a pointed question. There is a refrain from an old Janet Jackson number which expressed the disappointments and lamentations of a number of members who took that recent quiz regarding what coin designs they would like to see resurrected on future coins.. That refrain, as paraphrased, went "what-have-you-done-for-[us]-late-ly? Here's an idea. I do not know if the Federal Reporters and Supplements are still being published in bound volumes or are now on-line, but the state's Penal Law and Criminal Procedure Law are updated yearly with stapled revisions which are simply slipped into a back "pocket." The main volumes are published only when growing supplements are two unwieldy to insert and handle. The paper inserts, outdated, are discarded. Maybe that's what should be done here. Go ahead and maintain the latest edition, but issue supplements to complement the text. How many significant changes justify the expense of re-ordering a line-up? (Personally, I don't believe 100 is necessary) But the answer to the question of my topic is damning: three. Only THREE coins minted in the past 100 years made the 100 Greatest U.S. coins list. That speaks volumes. The hobby is divided between collectors and investors. How many of the Greatest Coins can be found in change?

Not close enough, alas. I was distracted by Chase Manhattan's secret tunnel, the FRB, the NYAO, Federal Hall, J.P. Morgan's Bank, the old FNCB and the NYSE. My uncle z's comment was short and merciful.

Absolutely not! We are all here to share knowledge from what we have learned or experienced. I personally enjoy seeing your posts.

[For the benefit of those who spent a restless night mulling this over, I have learned three things about this topic and coin: 1. Cuirass is pronounced: kwuh-RAS, with the emphasis on the RAS. 2. A cuirass is a piece of defensive "armor" which, covers the body from neck to wrist, breastplate and backplate, and was originally made from leather. 3. The correct spelling (incorrectly spelt on the label) is cuirassed. Only one 'r," two "s's.] To Ty, the OP: To my knowledge, every World coin has what is known as a "catalog number." As NGC Ancients certified your coin, I would contact them via the "Ask NGC/NCS" topic which is featured on the page listing the various Forums, or write NGC c/o Customer Service, or try their phone line listed on their main page. I wish you the best of luck. The certification number is very important as a reference; have your slab in hand whether you call or write. Best of luck to you!

This is about the most consequential gauntlet ever thrown down on this Forum. I challenge anyone to refute its basic premise. This is the tone of unequivocal authority! Great thread, Error guy! You bring out the very best in everyone. (Posted at the discretion of Moderation.)

On the plus side, fans of this Forum are not going to believe what I found: A dedicated YouTube video on nothing more than how to pronounce "groszy" corrrectly, repeated five times... Groh-zee - Groh-zee - Groh-zee - Groh-zee - Groh-zee. It gets better, next up is "Zloty." Poles pronounce it decidedly differently, but in English it is: ZLOW-TEH. [Never let it be said I am unable or unwilling to broaden the body of knowledge of our members.] Is this place great, or what? 🤣

🐓: I notice you've been a lot nicer to me lately. Rising gold prices wouldn't have something to do with it, would it? Q.A. No. Of course not! 🤣

You may cheat if you like, but ideally, off the top of your head, take a guess, then take a look. @Fenntucky Mike posted a topic on it and wonders whether a contemplated 6th Edition is necessary. He has helpfully provided a link to the lists as featured in the most recent editions as compiled by Jeff Garrett. You may draw your own conclusions.

I stand corrected.

The only case I can think of where conduct of employees was publicly addressed was when the results of an internal police investigation concluded corruption was rife at an NYPD 30th precinct station house. The then Commissioner, Bratton, took it upon himself to drop in on a roll call personally early one morning, unannounced, and literally ripped the badges off the officers involved. The commissioner humiliated the men who hadn't yet been charged and the case was enshrined in police lore, as the "Dirty Thirty." No formal letters. His actions spoke louder than words at the height of a drug epidemic. Posted at the discretion of Moderation.

I know in the music business using another's tune, in small part, is called "sampling." I wonder what using someone's book as a prop is called? I would guess free advertising. The gold commemorative had an exceedingly low run. I wouldn't be surprised if time were set aside on a paricular day and they were all minted at once. These coins, commemoratives, and rarer than an 1894-S dime, will never come down, and even less so with gold prices expected to rise as they inevitably do. Double Eagles were never the province of the average Joe on the street. If anything, it's the guys who could afford them but procrastinated who lament their inaction. The truth is, in that regard, I suspect there are many should've, couldn't, would've folks out there.

Wow, another member owns one of these. I've always wanted one but couldn't afford it. Now I suppose I can, but I am too old. The whole story of this and the three cent ones are on Google. They were made by an ordinary citizen in his shop in Manhattan. Yours is very lovely. Edit: I just checked Google. The whole story can be found on Wikepedia. Man I love this place! 🤣

OF INTEREST TO ALL COLLECTORS OF WORLD COINS... As collectors of this series (and this column) know by now, while I cannot say there has never been a time better than now to compile a set, availability seems to have picked up. Accordingly, if you are within the sound of my voice, check out MA-SHOPS, a sponsor of our hosts. Today alone, I received three separate e-mails advertising their latest offerings. The site is based in Germany (with an outpost in the United States - Florida) with employees fluent in English. At one time I unsubscribed from them in frustration but have come to the realization that many terms can be inserted in their search bar which will produce all manner of different results. On one of the e-mails I received, I tweaked the search terms used to read, "20 Francs Coq Marianne MS-67," not sure what to expect. What spewed forth were dozens of listings for 20 Franc coins of several countries, dates, grades, both certified and raw, or in other words, the whole kit 'n' caboodle. (If you collect World Coins, try a variety of descriptions. One or more is bound to produce a bounty.) If you are building a Set Registry, and are not familiar with the site, it behooves you to check it out. True, not a single MS-67 example was included in my most recent results, but I have not been deterred. Instead, I felt compelled to provide a lead to those of you who struggle to find one of the "Originals" (1899-1906). The pickings are plentiful. Six examples of the 1900 alone, were retrieved -- the rarest in the series, in various grades and prices. FOR COLLECTORS OF WORLD COINS: If you are unacquainted with this site, jump in, the water's fine. There is no telling which of the scores of dealers affiliated with their platform, may have that certain something that has eluded you up to now. Happy hunting to all! Note: I have been a member here, and a collector of gold roosters, for five years and recommend MA-SHOPS, unreservedly. Every experience I have had with their dealers has been positive: every order I placed was executed with dispatch. 🐓

[For the sake of argument, if I were to locate the wreck, what should I reasonably expect your cut to be? I ask because I am told you have the power to bump threads. I wouldn't want to get on your bad side.]

But, but... what coin is superior to a coin graded "70"? 🤔

@USAuPzlBxBob : I do not believe I would have had the presence of mind to think about formalities on a sinking ship. Then again, there was no question in Captain Smith's mind that he would go down with his ship... the Royal Mail Ship, Titanic, on of all things a ship's maiden voyage and what was to be the last ship the captain intended to helm before retiring. It's interesting that that flag detail made an impression on you. Thanks for the update!

🐓: I can't believe a self-described rank amateur like you came closest to the Actual Retail Price! You never even knew these existed! How did you do it? Q.A. Easy. Read the Topic. When you say "blew the doors off the place," you're suggesting a truly outrageous gavel price, and that's exactly what I did. *** [Auction records maintained by one TPGS lists a staggering $2,880 for a gold rooster I do not believe I paid more than $700 for at a lesser grade. Anomalies do occur from time to time at auctions for various reasons, but your example is exceptional for what you say is a common coin.]

Hi Ty! Welcome to the Forum! I am unable to assist you with identification, but am sure someone will be along shortly to help you. You have come to the right place. Please be patient.

He' also wearing a discreet clip on hearing aid, but it would be bad form to call him out on it.

Voila!

Maybe I can redeem myself after the recent GTG debacle. Not my area of expertise but it hints broadly as being a fine MS-67 example.

Sandon elsewhere suggested he is partial, if I am not mistaken, to a range of grades used in conjunction with adjectives. I concur. I believe the safest course of action for the OP to take is settle on a do-able series and learn as much as you can about it. If it is short, you will feel cheated. If it is long, it will be like partaking of a good meal with a few key dates to keep things interesting. First stop: get the latest copy of the "Red Book" and see what appeals to you. Collect for the sheer joy of it. You can share your acquisitions and any questions you may have with your family here, only a few keystrokes away. Happy hunting!

I believe this is key. Very often I am left with the impression owners of coins in lesser grades are unable to identify (or articulate) what it is they think they see because they do not have a genuine, unimproved example with which to compare their coin. This entire post is worthy of preservation in perpetuity. Excellent response!