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Henri Charriere
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1 hour ago, VKurtB said:
This OP is hopeless, and, and, and pointless and worthless too.
Well, I wouldn't go that far. As my, er, uh, sister once said (paraphrasing slightly) there is nothing wrong with the OP. He is what he represents himself to be and how we choose to perceive him. The real problem is US, the collector community, which repeatedly engages a subject that quite evidently is unwilling or unable to yield to mob pressure. After all, with the touch of a thumb or click of a mouse, the problem takes care of itself very nicely. The only spectators who come out ahead are Alex B or Mr. Hinkle who tune in strictly for the entertainment value.
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35 minutes ago, VKurtB said:
Yes, NGC. only accepts actual in-slab crossovers from PCGS. People who send in any other service are in effect submitting raw coins. When I send an ICG coin to NGC, I do crack it out, but I sometimes keep it in the readily identifiable ICG translucent insert. That way they know they’re likely reviewing an ICG coin.
There is a part of me that says, "I object! Leading the witness." Here's why... back when I was a clerk for a Diamond District emporium they would send me, with a diamond ring to be appraised -- only the ring would have attached to it a distinctive colored band and inventory number identifying it as, wink! wink!,
On 8/2/2020 at 3:09 PM, VKurtB said:so-and-so jewelers. In Trump-speak: Unfair! If you want a completely unbiased opinion, why would you do that? Even your rank amateur, ME!, wouldn't do that.
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What prompted you to soak it in olive oil? Oh, I get it now. Olive Street, St. Louis. (Lemme find out VKurtB is not the only mad scientist cooking up concoctions!)
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17 minutes ago, RichieRich2020 said:
I agree and great point ... im sure he was probably told it was nothing special or maybe even environmental damage with a smooth finish . Lol
Actually, much worse. He was told what he was holding in his hand, didn't exist! In bureaucrat-speak, of course.
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18 minutes ago, Cat Bath said:
OK...You talked me into it.
Next time you check the registry, you'll see me very near the bottom
I'm going to send my 1911 for a TrueView & put it in the registry when it comes back.
It will be some sort of miracle if I can find the 1st eight in MS but I'll give it a shot.
Gold is up 30%. Across-the-board unavailability at the high end has hindered me; unbeknownst to me (owing to my newfound newbie-ness status) I plunged in while prices were comparatively low. There are people out there trying to make a buck. Be extra cautious!
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3 minutes ago, Alex in PA. said:
Oh my! Where is LucyBop when you need her?
Googled Lucy Bop and got a You Tube video with neither likes nor dislikes for my trouble. I want my money back!
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Miracles do happen, a fact worth acknowledging. I keep thinking about that kid who received a letter from a government official stating no 1943 copper pennies were made. Good thing he put it in a drawer at home. He was vindicated years later. Too bad he didn't live long enough to enjoy the fruits of his discovery.
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[Forget about giving a thread legs. We, the devoted RR2020 fraternity, have given this thread golden wings. May the outpouring of knowledge and affection from this spigot continue unabated to time indefinite, even forever.]
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On 7/31/2020 at 3:01 PM, VKurtB said:
If both TPG's involved are among "the big two", our hosts and the four-letter "word" starting with "P", you have a real conundrum. If either is ANACS or ICG, trust me, they're wrong and the one from the "big two" is right. If neither is among the "big two", your story has wasted my time.
And here I was thinking the fate of both NGC and ANACS were intricably and irretrievably intertwined. I thought I read somewhere that NGC will not accept a submission for cross from an owner of an ANACS-holdered coin.
On 7/30/2020 at 10:50 PM, Big Nub numismatics said:"hypothetical" you say. They are just humans after all. I would take it to get a few more looks, and see what other dealers/collectors say. I wouldn't let this person sell these coins without another opinion.
Perhaps you could bust them out and send them to the other
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23 minutes ago, Conder101 said:
They always bring premiums no matter what gold prices are. But the higher gold rises, especially if it rises quickly, the smaller the premium becomes.
And, of course, the inverse is true for the AE silver dollars with a recent article devoted to just this phenomenon (higher premiums) as investors clamor to know why. Coin shortage? I doubt it. Probably has to do with that nefarious cabal one of our number alluded to.
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To penny collectors, everywhere: my deepest condolences.
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As a certified admirer of RichieRich2020, I am prepared to make him a very attractive offer for the coin, which evidently skewed the orbit of the earth more so than the last cataclysmic, wide-ranging tsunami (2004) get this now, sight unseen AND prior to submission and authentication.
I can do this because apparently, with the exception of a few hold-outs, you guys just don't get it. You do not understand RichieRich2020. And I, destined to win by 37 lengths, do. Ha! Ha! Ha!
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To all who read this, you may quote me for attribution: "I want to go on record with an observation, stated unconditionally and unequivocally: RICHIERICH2020 IS TOPS IN MY BOOK!"
There, I said it.
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12 minutes ago, bsshog40 said:
Man, the cointalk thread had 105 responses. Mostly the same as here. This thread has beaten his old record of arguing about a non-existent special finish by over 30 responses and still going!
The thing of it is, the thread collapses like a deck of cards without our input. Row well, and live!
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58 minutes ago, Cat Bath said:
The 20 Fr. Marianne is my 2nd favorite coin after the saint but I only have 2 because of the problem with collecting 1899-1906 as mentioned above
Here she is, my 1910 in 66+
You will find 2 complete sets here...(Both collectors, I believe, have a French connection that helps)
Finally, pay dirt! The No. 1 set, Rooster Roster, is mine, and quite frankly, I like the No. 2 set better. That guy worked [damned] hard to get to the top -- and actually held the No.1 slot briefly, but unbeknownst to him, I was delaying another update on my registry pending the arrival of two more key, hard to get roosters. I love your rooster and the only reason why I stopped at 1910 MS-66 is I tired of those minute, incremental increases in favor of whole grade updates -- which appears to have come to a grinding halt earlier this year. (Naturally, I am drowning in duplicates.) Certifying them at NGC would be a travesty and major departure from my MS-66 lineage. Incidentally, aside from a French collector who was in the process of divesting himself of his compilation and contacted me with a courtesy call -- as I explained to him, I already had a 1909 MS-67 which was then under consideration for cross at PCGS (and ultimately passed) -- you are the ONLY person to reach out to me on this subject, hence my comment that rooster owners are apparently reluctant to engage other collectors. Many thanks for your contribution. There is, as indicated elsewhere, plenty of room for improvement on my set, but not for lack of trying. Example: 1902. Highest grade: MS-64. Total certified by top TPGS: 3. I am stuck at MS-63. Gotta wait, I guess.
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19 hours ago, RWB said:
Some members might have seen the recent announcements concerning a set of Daniel Boon 1837 Commemorative P-D-S proofs. Published information can be viewed here:
The coins are definitely interesting and possibly unique, but unfortunately parts of the published description are wrong or misleading.
First – the coins were struck on one of the Philadelphia Mint’s hydraulic medal presses. It appears the same obverse die was paired with a fresh reverse for Philadelphia, Denver and San Francisco.
Second – the dies were normal production dies but unused.
Third – the coins were struck once, not twice. There was no need to double strike since the medal press could easily bring up all the die detail with one “squeeze.”
Fourth – after striking, the coins were sandblasted to create the micro-sparkling surface typical of mineral abrasive.
Fifth – following sandblasting, the pieces were antiqued in a manner similar to silver medals. This produced the shading and enhanced sense of depth evident in the coins.
Sixth – the coins were NOT some kind of secret off-the-books production, nor were they sold to influential collectors. The sandblast & antiqued coins were normal approval pieces made by John Sinnock for review by the Mint Director and Secretary of the Treasury. They were intended to show the commemorative design at its artistic best, and in a medallic presentation consistent with the desire of professional artists. These were normal test/trial pieces which do not appear on production records because they were not made for distribution or sale. (They would probably be mentioned in Engraving Department records, but those are almost all missing.)
Seventh – similar antiquated sandblast proof pieces were made of all commemoratives during Sinnock’s tenure, and analogous pieces were struck during the terms of Charles Barber (except Columbian and Isabella) and George Morgan (1921 and 1922 Peace dollar proofs and antiqued pieces). These proofs and many others came from Sinnock’s estate after his death and have been floating from one collection to another since.
The exaggerations, misleading, false and outdated information promoted by some is very discouraging. When will this hobby, or what little remains of it, decide that basic truth and honesty are much more exciting than tall tales.
Meticulous scholarship. Impeccable credentials. Unassailable facts. Impressive!
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[Allow me to preface my "flowery soapbox" style speech by offering a plausible reply to the poster who denounced me as a specially-designated Troll (yes, with a Capital T) and pointedly threw into my face the charge, framed as an accusation, that I had promised to take leave of this now legendary free-for-all: I LIED! Simple as that.]
Now, where were we?... Oh yeah, RichieRich2020. For sheer staying power -- an intermittent post spread over five remarkable pages! -- you are the undisputed champ!!! I don't even remember what we were talking about. It's not even important because the default, go-to conclusion is problematic at best: submit it for autopsy, with a big WHAT IF looming. I don't know that it is possible to grade a coin virtually. I suspect even Fifth or Sixth Party Graders, with no axe to grind, would insist on a personal, physical consultation. That being said, and having exhausted the patience of onlookers (eager to go on to the next wildebeest mugging) I respectfully suggest you solicit an expert, if not professional, opinion again after waiting a decent interval for the air to clear. You will always be tops in my book and, talking about books, the Richie Rich comic books I enjoyed in my youth (circa late1950s/1960s) were terrific, especially the collaboration with Casper the Ghost!
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11 minutes ago, Learn said:
Thanks for the essay
My self-censored reply (which I am not man enough to post) originally read as follows: "Simple cat urine staining which can easily be removed with a spritz of Water Displacement formula number 40, a/k/a WD-40."
As you can see, I do have the ability to bite my tongue. Seriously, Mr. L, you have the enviable luxury to conduct your own mad scientist resuscitation effort on this coin, a la VKurtB, no offense intended.
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18 minutes ago, Alex in PA. said:
Definite fake. As for 'provenance' it has the look of a Chinese knockoff that you would find on Alibaba. The reason I say this is because it looks like it was recently minted. They sell tons of fabricated American coins on Alibaba and Etsy and while in their description they will call it a 'Fantasy' coin they never seem to have 'copy' on them which is required by the Hobby Protection Act. Hope I have been of some help.
Well, you've got a point there. I have an 1804 Silver Dollar in magnificent condition: a concoction of the Intaglio Mint which has a clever way of skirting the "copy" designation by producing them in double the standard thickness size. The 1795 presents an unnaturally "clean" appearance. A red flag.
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No offense to Learn, or my learned colleagues at large, but this pitiable example fully represents why I stopped out of the hobby some 50+ years ago. Again, no one wants to state the obvious: The Emperor Has No Clothes! What are we talking about here, damage of some kind to a CLAD coin? Anyone care to venture a guess as to the numismatic value of this shipwrecked relic? Do I hear 25? Fifty? My dear Mr. Learn, The ridership (those who delight in taking us all for a ride, newbie and oldie, alike) are being excruciatingly polite. Forget the classification. What I would really like to know is whether or not you are curious as to its numismatic worth? Or enough copper in the thing to salvage your quarter investment if the local laundry machine rejects it. It is perfectly alright for grown men to agonize, wring their hands and gnash their teeth over a Fugio cent. A clad, not so much. And a damaged one, in mixed company, never! My unremitting, totally biased and embarrassingly prejudiced opinion.
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Well, whether fake or real, I would be curious to know its provenance, i.e., how you acquired it, from whom you purchased it, etc.
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5 minutes ago, VKurtB said:
What? No love for the bicentennial stuff?
Ah, you're a mensch! I am all but constrained to defer to age and wisdom.
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12 minutes ago, VKurtB said:
Me? I'm going with 250th anniversary and dropping the BS.
That may be fine for birthdays and weddings, but not coins. Recall those lovely sesquicentennial coins from 1926. Lighten up, VKurtB. Put down that jackhammer. Life is too short, especially now, in the twilight of our years.
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44 minutes ago, VKurtB said:
When my city and county celebrated their 250th anniversaries, they called it a bicenquincuagenery. Whatever.
Well, now you know the scientific name translated from the Latin Vulgate, by Jerome, c. 400 C.E. (Iuxta Vulgatum Versionem, Wurttembergisce Bibelanstalt, Stuttgart, 1975 which is very often confused with the Codex Leningrad B 19A, Heb., 1008 C.E., H.S., Saltykov-Shchedrin State Public Library, Leningrad, (now, present-day) Russia.
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