GoldFinger1969

Why would the Mint have a problem getting silver blanks/rounds ?

If it's clearly opinion or if he is drawing a logical conclusion, that's OK. It's not like Walter Breen getting caught (not his fault, IMO) talking about an English hoard of Saints.

I thought the privvy mark coins were selling for $500 each ? And a complete set was like $2,000 or more for MS70 and 1st Strike ?

And as with coins.....we need to ask....".....are they real....and are they spectacular ??"

That FIND function for a PDF is very useful (when it works ! ). Maybe someone can show us just the index for "A" in FMTM and we can extrapolate that a complete index would be 25x as much. I'm curious as to why a printed one would be so long (I have FMTM but don't know where I put the CD if I got one).

FMTM has a Bibliography of 15 pages, 10 for the Saints book. Both very readable and useful.

FMTM index would be how big ? You might be focusing too much on minutae.

I don't think I would have the interest in coins and/or Saints that I have today without all the information I have gathered from the internet, including message forums. Also, WRONG information on a Saint or coin I can live with...it's GROSS FRAUD that poisons the well.

Wait a second....an Index is supposed to help you find KEY chapters or topics. It should be a fraction of the book size. I've never seen an index in the back of the book that is more than 10% of the book pages. KEY names...KEY topics...maybe an obscure or peculiar fact highlighted.

At least on the forums with moderators, compared to Ebay/Etsy/Craigslist/Reddit....I see light-years better information.

Roger, have you seen the 1907 UHRs in person ? Any comments on the rankings above ?

An MS-66+CAC 1924 went for $7,312 (with bp)....an MS-67 NGC 1924 went for $11,032 last night. Prices moved up but I didn't see any bubble in 65+ coins or 65 CACs. Buyers remain disciplined and sellers aren't asking for the Moon.

But true information also spreads quickly and the nature of coin forums usually lends to bad information being forced out.

Apparently, Bob Simpson had his re-done with his name on it. May have said "Hein" before him. Or no name on it.

1907 MCMVII UHR Rankings as per this article and the folks who have seen many of them: Bloomfield UHR "Wall Street" UHR Simpson UHR Trompeter-Morse UHR Browning UHR https://coinweek.com/featured-news/coin-rarities-related-topics-ultra-high-relief-saint-gaudens-20-gold-pattern-realizes-2-76-million/

Lineage traced to Col. Green and JF Bell collections. https://www.greatcollections.com/kb/GreatCollections-and-Heritage-Complete-475-Million-Transaction-for-Ultra-High-Relief-Gold-t442-4.html

Right...but the Bloomfield UHR has "MS" and not "PF" on the label.

The PCGS premium really kicks in when the coins are at the ultra-rare population. For instance, I don't really see much of a premium for 1924 MS-65 Saints if it is PCGS or NGC. MS-67 is another story.

Can your provide a link to your registry ? Couldn't find it last night. Most coin values are going UP -- esp. gold -- so be wary about any down valuations. Again, auction prices are your best friend (GC's end tonight).

Anything to say about the SAINTS cover ?

Another MCMVII UHR was sold in a private transaction for $4.75 MM to the owner of the 1933 Saint a few months ago (I must have missed it). https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/1907-ultra-high-relief-double-eagle-realizes-4-point-75-million-dollars I thought it might be the Bloomfield UHR but that is graded MS-68 (not sure why, I thought all the Ultra High Reliefs are proofs). Anyway, I think I have an article that lists all the UHRs with pics (?) but this one hadn't traded since 2007 apparently. More and more of these high-end 7 and 8-figure coins seem to be avoiding auction and going for sale in private transactions.

Is your primary focus the pricing differential between NGC and PCGS....or whether either or both are up-to-speed with current market values ? Those are separate issues. I find the online pricing guide/chart useful for the TREND going back months or years....but not for the recent past or current market value. For that, I go to recent auctions at HA or GC. Those are recent...real-time...and reflect true market outcomes often with multiple bidders on multiple items of the same grade.

I see quality on HA and GC all the time, do you look there ? That's something we have debated here for quite a while here: the long-term demographic strength of the hobby and the influx (?) post-Covid with all the new Keyboard Collectors. Your perspective is interesting and noted. I'll check out your registry, thanks !

"The Best One" MS-69 Wells Fargo Hoard 1908 No Motto for Sale: Just went up for sale, a month to go. Bidding over $100,000 right now. Should be very interesting to see what it goes for. I thought last time it was sold for $95,000 in the Morse Sale (2005) but maybe it re-sold at a later date for more, I'll have to check. https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1132876/1908-Saint-Gaudens-Gold-Double-Eagle-No-Motto-Wells-Fargo-Nevada-Gold-The-Best-One-PCGS-MS-69

Definitely not the case. It was a SHE.