Coinbuf

nice one
 

Sweet thread! Great stuff already but just to change it up a touch.

I can think of one dealer specifically that has made a great deal of noise beating the PCGS is the "ONLY" way to collect and it darn well better have a "CAC" sticker.  ANYthing else is inferior and clearly not good enough.  . 
Basically picking a segment of the market and packaging it a certain way and yelling from the rooftops it's their way or the highway (ie good enough vs. second rate).  Honestly drives me nuts.  Yes the material is gorgeous and high end, but guess what, no one gets to pick for me what/how/the level/the material I want to collect...and no, you don't get to tell me what is the 'right' way to enjoy MY HOBBY.
Honestly it feels slimy and reminds me of a slick talking annuities or whole life salesman trying to tell me that only he knows how to manage my money.  Um no, no one cares as much about my money as me and yes the returns will be great, but the great returns are those going into your pocket not mine.
Don't get me wrong, I love my PCGS coins, I love my NGC coins, I love my ANACs coins (and I even have a SEGS or ICG running around too).  What ties it all together are the COINS.  And my registry game is NGC as it suits my collection.
I've said it once and I'll say it again.  It makes SENSE for NGC to run an NGC only registry.  And the out of proportion ire if not outright fury I've seen directed at NGC is irritating.  Lets say company A sells puppies.  Company B sells puppies and kittens.  People see room for both companies.  But when company B decides to focus only on kittens suddenly there is outrage they 'only' sell kittens now.  Puppies are still available.  Kittens are still available.  Why should only one company be in trouble for being exclusive?  Shouldn't company A been feeling the same heat?  It's so odd.  
And adopt from shelters/rescues/reputable breeders, spay and neuter.  Don't buy REAL puppies and kittens from stores.  This was just an example.  Shoot, go get an adult greyhound (or other dog and after doing your homework) or an adult cat.  Who needs puppies and kittens anyway...your rugs will thank you. 

NGC offered both NGC and PCGS coins in their Registry for a long time. PCGS never has.
I thought it inevitable that NGC would eventually make this change.
My only set's are in the NGC Registry.

Added another 1852 large cent to my collection.  N-11
I bought the coin for the strike.  It may have been cleaned, but, the strike is outstanding. A little brown coin envelope should fix up that nasty old cleaning.
 
 
 

Working on taking some pics myself, best so far but still a long way off from the pros

With every statement you show just how little you understand of the CAC business model, CAC is not here to protect anyone and where you got that misinformation from is just wild.  And I'm beginning to think that there is good reason why your not a dealer anymore.  It seems simple that someone with the experience you claim to have would be making a killing by buying non CAC material, running those thru the bean factory and making mint on the other side.
Kool-aid drinker no I'm more a Gatorade man myself, but you certainly showed just how bad a judge of people you are with that statement haha.  I have never been a dealer and I have zero desire to, nor do I have any ties of any type to CAC.  You make yourself look ignorant making assumptions like that when you have never met or know anything about who I am.
Brow beat you, once again you miss the mark you've done that to yourself by letting one man dictate to you what you collect, no need for me to do so lol.

Actually, I should have been more clear there Mark and I do apologize.  I'm applauding Bill for not buying into the CAC hype and being willing to openly share his thoughts on it and for bowing out of playing the CAC game.  I was applauding this part here:
I think that I've been so sick of the whole sticker hype that I was just so glad to see another collector who was as fed up with it as I am.  I meant no disrespect to Coinbuf as a person at all and I apologize that it may have come off that way.  But I do despise the sticker game and I despise CAC for creating it and I have a hard time with the CAC cheerleaders because I honestly feel that CAC has done a lot more harm than good to the hobby.  And, I think that Coinbuf would be the first to admit that he's highly pro-CAC.  Bill was willing to stand against the tide of CAC lovers and against a company who has done a lot to ruin for him an area of collecting that he previously really enjoyed.  Bill was willing to share an opinion which may not be popular among many collectors and he stood by it.  That's what I was applauding.  I happen to share his feelings on CAC and I really wish that they, and others, were not stickering anything. 
So, I was writing quickly with my heart here when I should have explained myself better.  I do apologize and I hope that I've clarified myself properly here.
And, yes, this may be a dead horse kind of issue.  CAC is here, for better or worse.  Some people love them, some hate them.  I just happen to be in the latter camp. 

Does your applause indicate you agree with the thought that if Mr. Jones (or someone else) believes a coin to be over-graded, that must be so and CAC shouldn’t sticker it? And that he was justified in his accusations against Coinbuf for taking issue with his stance? 

If so, that particular emoji was no doubt, beaten to death.😄

Working on taking some pics myself, best so far but still a long way off from the pros

I think I see some color on the obverse. Heritage Images.


 

From a recent show......

You sound like a bitter ex every time you bring this CAC stuff up lol.  So your mad that one man dictates the market (at least in your opinion) yet you allow that one man to dictate what you buy??  You do realize just how silly this sounds right?

Very neon 

Snagged these two off eBay with my "Best Offer:"


Seller stated "Original Box." It isn't, According to Charles Keck, the designer, and Medallic Art Company the Manufaturer. The original box is an "easel type" box. Still cool though.