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1969
 
 
 
 

1969
 
 
 
 

I actually witnessed this phenomenon in person at the Colorado Springs zoo, when I was a youngster. This hippo didn't just spread it a few feet, either. It went all into the crowd. When the event was over, a guy in the crowd next to me said, "So, that is what that little tail is for!"
I also witnessed a male tiger spraying a little girl and her mother at our local zoo, but  I am not sure if that fits this particular thread.

Most guides are,as you put it,"optimistic" when it comes to prices. Since coins do not come with a MSRP, they are like most collectibles: they are worth what some one is willing to pay for them at the moment they are being sold. That price fluctuates with different factors and market conditions, so your idea of checking recent Ebay sales is a good one. That is probably the best indicator of current value.
Welcome to the forum.

Collector3745, I would like to pass along some information that might prove valuable to you:
In the early 90s, the US Mint started making the mint mark part of the design/plaster mold of business strike coins, something that they started doing with proof coins in '85. Up until then, they were punching the mint mark into each working die by hand, after it had been created by having been pressed by the working hub. That pressing by the hub is when the various types of doubled dies are formed. The dies were hubbed more than once, so movement of the hub during the pressing process, movement between presses, tilting of the hub,  - all of these things and more caused the various types of doubling that we refer to as DDO and DDR. The point though, is that the mint mark was not on the hub or the die at that time.Thus- and this is important-  in 1969, when your coin was minted, there was no mint mark on the die until after it (the die) was formed. 
Your coin in the picture at the beginning of this thread shows doubling on the date. It also shows doubling on the mint mark, which matches the doubling of the date in direction, intensity, and spread. There are only two ways for this to happen. One would be for a coin to have a DDO with a repunched mint mark that matches the doubling perfectly. The odds of this are slim,  to say the least, but I checked Variety Vista, just to be sure. There are no DDOs with matching RPMs listed for your coin in 1969. Likewise, there no RPMs with DDOs, either. Since the only time that the mint mark and the date were on the die at the same time was after it was created,  the doubling would have to have happened after  the mint mark was added, so it could only have happened when the coin was struck. That would be the second way for it to have happened- Strike Doubling.  And, that is what your coin has.
Again, to put it plainly, a coin minted in 1969 which showed hub doubling (DDO or DDR) would not have a doubled mint mark with the exact same doubling. Your coin does have that matching doubling. Therefore, your coin can not be a doubled die.
 
This post was written late last night, after a very long and trying day, so I apologize for the rambling. I was trying to make the point clearly as possible, but it seems to have gotten muddled some. I will post it any way, with the goal  of sharing some info. Hope it does some good.

Fortunately, she only sold elongateds - seven pages of them, in fact. Cents, nickels, dimes, and even a few Japanese Yen that were pressed in Hawaii.
What was her comment? Here is the copy/paste:
 
Before creating my images, I sometimes  clean coins a bit t o remove tarnish & grime but may not polish them.   T
ouch-ups could be done by the new owner as desired.         I am glad she doesn't sell anything valuable.    

I don't see anything wrong with it. Nice coin.

Thanks for posting the article. Well done.

I'm afraid you missed the point, Collector3745. Conder101 was not agreeing with you. He was saying that there is no way to confuse your coin with the real and valuable 1969s DDO. In other words, your coin looks NOTHING like the real deal.
Seriously, guy, you need to take a step back. Every one of us on this board would love to find something rare and valuable, just like you, but you are looking without listening, and guessing without learning.
Go to Books-A-Million, grab a large latte, get a copy of the Cherry Picker's Guide off the shelf, find a couch, and look in the back at the appendix that teaches you the difference between hub doubling and machine doubling. There is even a self-test, to help you learn to spot the differences. Read it until you get it figured out. Our hosts also have a page that shows the differences. You have been given that link at least once. Find it, read it, learn it.
You have the potential to be a good collector, and a valuable member of this community, but you are trying way too hard to hit the jackpot without getting the required knowledge first. As the saying goes: "Buy the book before the coin."

I don't see anything wrong with it. Nice coin.

I'm afraid you missed the point, Collector3745. Conder101 was not agreeing with you. He was saying that there is no way to confuse your coin with the real and valuable 1969s DDO. In other words, your coin looks NOTHING like the real deal.
Seriously, guy, you need to take a step back. Every one of us on this board would love to find something rare and valuable, just like you, but you are looking without listening, and guessing without learning.
Go to Books-A-Million, grab a large latte, get a copy of the Cherry Picker's Guide off the shelf, find a couch, and look in the back at the appendix that teaches you the difference between hub doubling and machine doubling. There is even a self-test, to help you learn to spot the differences. Read it until you get it figured out. Our hosts also have a page that shows the differences. You have been given that link at least once. Find it, read it, learn it.
You have the potential to be a good collector, and a valuable member of this community, but you are trying way too hard to hit the jackpot without getting the required knowledge first. As the saying goes: "Buy the book before the coin."

That glass Columbian token is amazing! I would love to see one up close.
Congrats on scoring the capped cent collection. That is quite a haul. The link to your article did not post, though. I would love to read it,if you don't mind reposting that link,please.

Fortunately, she only sold elongateds - seven pages of them, in fact. Cents, nickels, dimes, and even a few Japanese Yen that were pressed in Hawaii.
What was her comment? Here is the copy/paste:
 
Before creating my images, I sometimes  clean coins a bit t o remove tarnish & grime but may not polish them.   T
ouch-ups could be done by the new owner as desired.         I am glad she doesn't sell anything valuable.    

What!? No blurry cell phone pics taken from two feet away? 

I smell bovine excrement.

I smell bovine excrement.

I don't know what that is.

I'm seeing an "S"
I still have no idea about the coin, unless it is an underweight planchet.

Maybe it is an oversized cent, and that is why it works out to 105%.
As for the coin, I see what looks like mechanical doubling on LIBERTY and the motto. Not a doubled die, if that is what you are wondering.

Maybe it is an oversized cent, and that is why it works out to 105%.
As for the coin, I see what looks like mechanical doubling on LIBERTY and the motto. Not a doubled die, if that is what you are wondering.