Just Bob

On 5/17/2024 at 12:00 PM, VKurtB said:

A metallurgical test on a plated coin is meaningless. The reading depends on how much core is revealed. Even an XRF should show pure copper if no zinc is exposed.  

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The original post about this coin, showing it in a PCGS details holder, can be found about halfway down the page in this thread: https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/431781-1982-d-small-date-bronze-penny/#comment-9872540

Click here for a link to a SP61 piece that was sold by Stacks  

Definitely worth more than spot in my opinion. Pretty coin.

First of all, welcome to The forum, if I haven't already welcomed you. 

Tolerance on the brass/bronze Lincoln cents is .13 g so a normal cent could be as light as 2.98 g and still be within tolerance. Your scale only reading to one decimal place means that your coin could actually weigh as much as 2.84 g. That leaves us just over a tenth of a gram underweight, possibly. The wear could account for that, I suppose, or the planchet could have been slightly under weight to begin with. Keep in mind that planchets were not weighed individually, so 3.11 is the average weight of a normal cent. And, this was during the war, so a slightly underweight Lincoln cent was probably way down the list of priorities for the government at that time.

According to the design and placement of the designer's initials, that is a Wide AM. 

Close

Wide

Well done! The set is looking good.

PR65

I bet the colors look much better in hand.

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On 5/7/2024 at 3:38 PM, Coinbuf said:

Not sure if this really falls into the token category but what the heck.  

 

Although the title says “token,” all exonumia is welcome.

Thanks for posting.

I think that's a knee.

On 5/6/2024 at 12:42 PM, Sandon said:

    Welcome to the NGC chat board.

    Your 1957-D cent resembles an in-collar multiple strike where the planchet (blank) rotated between strikes, but I strongly suspect that it was fabricated (faked) outside of the mint.  The multiple images are too localized and only seem to appear on the obverse.  See https://www.error-ref.com/?s=multiple+strikes for images and descriptions of genuine pieces. (A multiple strike is a mint error that occurs to a specific coin while being struck; a doubled die, which this definitely isn't, is a die variety caused by doubling in the die itself.)

   In addition to awaiting additional responses on this forum, you might want to post this coin on the CONECA forum at https://board.conecaonline.org/forum. You can also request an opinion from Jon Sullivan, a respected errors dealer, at https://sullivannumismatics.com/contact-us/.

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On 5/6/2024 at 7:52 AM, J P M said:

I wonder if the San Fran mint actually made a run of 1908s coins as a trial to the 1909 it would be a cool find if so.

The story that I heard was that this typographical error actually fueled a rumor that the mint had done just that: created some pattern coins in 1908 that somehow got released.. Supposedly, people were searching all over looking for them. Unfortunately they don't exist.

Thanks for showing a picture. I had heard about the error, but never actually seen a copy to confirm it.

Nice group of coins 

1908s VDB

Take a look at the Lincoln cent listing. I think this 30th edition has an error in it.

Looks like someone hollowed out a dollar coin and inserted a quarter. I hope you didn’t pay much, or if you did, I hope the seller accepts returns.

My reply to your other thread, which I have Copy/pasted here:

Clarence Hossley operated a billiard parlor inside the Carroll Hotel in Vicksburg, MS in the early 1900s. Two types of tokens were issued in 5 cent denominations. Both were round brass, 21 mm in diameter. One had a 2mm center hole, the other type did not. Both are listed in Chatham's Mississippi token book as R9 (2 -3 known to exist). Those numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, since the book was written in 1990. It is possible that more examples have been found since the book was written. Still, I have been collecting and following Mississippi tokens for over 40 years, and I can recall seeing only one other example of this piece in all those years. As far as value, that depends entirely on who wants it and how bad. It could sell for $25 or it could sell for several hundred. That may sound odd, but that is the token market. The venue, current market conditions, seller, demand, and condition of the piece all can play a part in the final price. I can tell you this: I bought my example off eBay in September of 2008, during a lull in the market, and I paid $45.44 plus shipping.

As zadok said, the value of this particular token, which appears to have been dug from the ground, is much less than it would be for a token in pristine condition. Unless you could find a collector who really needed an example and was willing to pay more, I would put the maximum value at around $20.

On 5/3/2024 at 12:17 AM, VKurtB said:

. Some here love the advice “crop in close”. I do not ascribe to that school of thought. In digital photography, cropping throws away pixels. Blowing up a cropped photo just ruins whatever resolution was there. Sorry guys, it just does. Getting in close must be done with optics, not cropping digital pictures. 

It seems to me that using digital zoom to bring the coin closer before taking the picture also makes things fuzzier. 

Clarence Hossley operated a billiard parlor inside the Carroll Hotel in Vicksburg, MS in the early 1900s. Two types of tokens were issued in 5 cent denominations. Both were round brass, 21 mm in diameter. One had a 2mm center hole, the other type did not. Both are listed in Chatham's Mississippi token book as R9 (2 -3 known to exist). Those numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, since the book was written in 1990. It is possible that more examples have been found since the book was written. Still, I have been collecting and following Mississippi tokens for over 40 years, and I can recall seeing only one other example of this piece in all those years. As far as value, that depends entirely on who wants it and how bad. It could sell for $25 or it could sell for several hundred. That may sound odd, but that is the token market. The venue, current market conditions, seller, demand, and condition of the piece all can play a part in the final price. I can tell you this: I bought my example off eBay in September of 2008, during a lull in the market, and I paid $45.44 plus shipping.

Thank you for those pictures of the tiny indentations. I have never done any plating myself, so I did not know what to look for. Learned something new today.

I would list it on eBay or one of the other online selling platforms. You can do an advanced eBay search for "sold" listings of similar tokens to get a feel for what it might bring.

I am not able to read the letters very well, but it looks like it says "DFS." From what I have read about these, the middle initial is usually the first letter of the last name, especially if it is larger than the other two letters. The initials can be the name of one person, or the outside two can be first letters of the names of two people. So, if I have the letters right, this could have been made for a name like Daisy Sue Farmer, or, if for a couple, Dan & Sally Fields.