Critique this 1858 O Please

[Stanley]

There are some very faint hairlines under magnification. There are a few raised lines in it as well. Luster only around the devices. Not as white in hand , more of a pewter silver.

Would it holder?

 

 

[James_OldeTowne]

I think it will grade anywhere a AU-50 to AU-55.

[Stanley]

Thank you James.

Would it be safe to say that light circulation can often cause a few hairlines especially on certain series of coinage.

[WinstonWare]

I wouldn’t guess that it would holder. I would guess it would come back improper cleaned. Sorry

[bsshog40]

I don't really see much for cleaning hairlines myself. The scratches I do see seem to be circulation. I would venture to say AU also. I'm not familiar with these enough to know about the pewter coloring tho'.

[BillJones]

The basic grade is AU-50 for sharpness, but I think there is a good chance that it won't grade. The pewter silver look is one of the stages silver takes when it is coming down from a cleaning. This would appear to had more done to it that just a quick dip.

[PerryHall]

Body bag. Harsh cleaning.

[physics-fan3.14]

I would grade it AU-50, net VF-30, harsh cleaning.

[TomB]

The image makes the coin appear to have had more than a simple dip.

[relicsncoins]

Although dipping can improve coins, I'm not really a big fan of dipping circulated coins. Do to the lack of luster a ciculated coin already has, the dipping tends to leave a washed out look. I think this coin could be improved by letting it hang it in an album for a few years to aquire some secondary toning.

 

JJ

[Stanley]

Although dipping can improve coins, I'm not really a big fan of dipping circulated coins. Do to the lack of luster a ciculated coin already has, the dipping tends to leave a washed out look. I think this coin could be improved by letting it hang it in an album for a few years to aquire some secondary toning.

 

JJ

My thoughts exactly. In hand it doesn’t look as bad as the image depicts however I did want honest opinions.

Thanks every one for there help.

 

In addition, I get the idea someone may have used maybe a tooth pick in conjunction with a dip solution.

[BillJones]

In addition, I get the idea someone may have used maybe a tooth pick in conjunction with a dip solution.

 

There is nothing wrong with using a wooden toothpick to scape out some grime. Old time collectors were known to use throrns.

 

Of course most grimey coins are circulated pieces which would not benefit from dipping.

[RUSS BEGA]

it looks like it might have some "cabnet friction" but it is a fairly attractive coin. if luster is present i woulkd say in the 1u53 range if nor xf. seateds are hard to grade but this semms to be a nice one

[MikeKing]

In addition, I get the idea someone may have used maybe a tooth pick in conjunction with a dip solution.

 

There is nothing wrong with using a wooden toothpick to scape out some grime. Old time collectors were known to use throrns.

 

 

Me thinketh that Tom and HOOT still use thorns...

[chinook]

AU cleaned.

[Stanley]

I bought that coin by mistake. I had a watch list and went to purchase an 1853 and purchased the 58 instead.

 

I already had this one.

 

 

 

 

 

[chinook]

I bought that coin by mistake. I had a watch list and went to purchase an 1853 and purchased the 58 instead.

 

Dont beat yourself up. Just because the coin may have been cleaned does not make it a bad coin. It is a great example of type. The only thing you need to be concerned with is paying too much for such examples.

[Stanley]

I bought that coin by mistake. I had a watch list and went to purchase an 1853 and purchased the 58 instead.

 

Dont beat yourself up. Just because the coin may have been cleaned does not make it a bad coin. It is a great example of type. The only thing you need to be concerned with is paying too much for such examples.

Like I said the 58 wasn’t supposed to be on my watch list. Buy the time I pulled the trigger it was too late. I think I can recover less than $200.00 I paid for it.

[rbrown4]

Stan,

 

Do you tend to believe that it has been cleaned in the past?

 

Rey

[Stanley]

Stan,

 

Do you tend to believe that it has been cleaned in the past?

 

Rey

Yes I was suspicious of the surfaces but not the one posted on this page the 1858 posted earlier in the post.

[lkenefic]

I bought that coin by mistake. I had a watch list and went to purchase an 1853 and purchased the 58 instead.

 

I already had this one.

 

 

 

 

 

Now THAT is a lovely coin!!

[rrantique]

Great SLH Stan

[michael]

great coin /will not holder at pcgs/ngc/ au55

[Stanley]

great coin /will not holder at pcgs/ngc/ au55

[James_OldeTowne]

Although the coin in the OP has been cleaned, I still think it would holder. This is the type of cleaning that is all-too-often forgiven by grading services.

[Elbesaar]

See if you can return the first coin...its really nowhere near as nice as you

originially thought it would be. I would grade it AU 53 details - net grade XF 45

for overdipping [ all the life's been stripped off that coin ].

 

Can't see that many cleaning lines - just circulation marks...IMHO.

 

I love the second coin...but would grade it AU 58 - and a choice one at that -

I just don't think its a MS 61. Regardless, nice taste in Seated Halves.

 

[Stanley]

Thanks all for the replies