Two Buffalo 5 Cents - Requesting Opinions

[rbrown4]

Here is a 1913-S Variety 1 and a 1938 D Buffalo that I am thinking of taking with me to the Baltimore show this weekend. I have yet to have a Buffalo graded so if anyone has some thoughts on these two, it would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

rbrown4

 

 

 

 

[halfpint]

i'll give you both 67's

 

halfpint

[rrantique]

Here is a 1913-S Variety 1 and a 1938 D Buffalo that I am thinking of taking with me to the Baltimore show this weekend. I have yet to have a Buffalo graded so if anyone has some thoughts on these two, it would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

rbrown4

 

 

 

 

 

I'll say Ms-65 on the 13 and Ms-66 on the 38 great coins

[Dwaine]

I not an expert or even novice on this series but that 38 is awesome. I would think at least a 64 and maybe as high as a 67.

[Bruceswar]

The 13 S is a HIGG AU coin. Now that is not to say it would not land in an MS holder. The 38 D looks MS 66 from the images givin the luster is there.

[rbrown4]

Thanks for the replies. Bruce what is HIGG? Hope that is not a dumb question.

 

Thanks,

[Hoot]

I'd call the 1913 an AU58 and the 1938-D an unknown. Not enough info from the photos. In terms of details, the '38 could go 65, but the carbon spot in front of the Indian's nose might keep the coin at a 64.

 

Hoot

[texasrichard]

I'd say '13 as AU-55 and the '38 as MS64 (although PQ for 64). I too think the carbon spot will hold it back.

[bsshog40]

I'd say about a 67 on the 13 and a 66 on the 38. Nice buffalo's. I like!!!

[MunkyMan95]

64 on the 13 and 66 on the 38. Very nice!

[bsshog40]

Is the 13 just blurry pic up around the liberty, or is this wear???

[rbrown4]

It is a somewhat blurry pic but there is a sign of wear in that area near the Liberty.

 

Thanks,

[MunkyMan95]

Is LIBERTY one of the high points on the coin? Would it wear first? Could it just be a weak strike?

[rbrown4]

By what I have read 1913-S Variety I and II are usually unevenly struck, with weak spots in the details. In the 20's the Liberty as well as the horn and tail is particulary weak apparently.

 

I will see what kind of grading opinion I can get from one of the TPG's tomorrow at the show.

 

Thanks,

 

rbrown4

[ldhair]

I'm thinking AU58 and MS65. Both are really nice.

[Prethen]

The carbon spot on the '38 kills it. I agree with the above opinion that it will grade no higher than 64.

[Bruceswar]

Thanks for the replies. Bruce what is HIGG? Hope that is not a dumb question.

 

Thanks,

 

I meant to say HIGH.. HIGG was a typo..

[Bruceswar]

I'd call the 1913 an AU58 and the 1938-D an unknown. Not enough info from the photos. In terms of details, the '38 could go 65, but the carbon spot in front of the Indian's nose might keep the coin at a 64.

 

Hoot

 

This is a very accurate asesment. One of the first places to check on a buffalo nickel the the rear end area. you will see flatness on the buffalo.

[bsshog40]

I'd say about a 67 on the 13 and a 66 on the 38. Nice buffalo's. I like!!!

 

I think that I may have to change my mind here. I still like the 38. I still think it would come close to the MS67. Not much knowledge on what the carbon spot would knock it down tho'. I think that the 13, I originally said MS67, but I'm thinking that the liberty is not a weak strike as it looks worn down with the rim on that side. AU for it if so. I'm not the best with buffalos , so I may be wrong and for sure know I'll be corrected if so.

[ibyandsellsmith]

The 13 to me just looks like a weak strike which most definatly will not keep it out of a MS holder the reverse is pristine not circ, and the 38 I would put a 65 to 66 too bad for that spot but hey I've seen 69's in holders with that same kind of spot only not black. thats my opinion as a professional opinionater.

[rbrown4]

Hopefully, will let you know tomorrow evening.

 

rbrown4

[rbrown4]

Consensus from the TPGs at the show today is AU-58 on the 1913 and MS-64 on the 1938. The carbon spot did prevent it from going higher.

 

Thanks for all of the opinions on these.

[jesbroken]

If the 13 goes MS then I think it will grade 62 obv(weak strike) and 64 rev netting 63. I feel the 38 will grade 66 or maybe 67 if the spot doesn't downgrade it. I don't think it will, but then thats just IMHO.

Jim

[TomB]

That '13-S sure looks like an AU coin to me.