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I truly think I have discovered a new error in the 151 wheat penny... I don't know the correct terms to use  but it weighs 2.14g... Fully legible to see all wheat detail's..I have google a million times and not 1 person I found has mention anything about this coin... I'm I tripping...getting too excited about nothing please let me know what you guys thinks..*COIN QUEEN 

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On 10/14/2024 at 7:47 AM, COIN QUEEN1 said:

I truly think I have discovered a new error in the 1951 wheat penny... I don't know the correct terms to use  but it weighs 2.14g... Fully legible to see all wheat detail's..I have google a million times and not 1 person I found has mention anything about this coin... I'm I tripping...getting too excited about nothing please let me know what you guys thinks..*COIN QUEEN 

 

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Welcome!  You’ll really have to post some pictures of your coin for any help. There are a few possibilities, wear or damage, rolled thin planchet are a few. Probably nothing to get too excited about, but once you post pictures you’ll get lots of help.

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On 10/14/2024 at 8:08 AM, Greenstang said:

Welcome to the forum

As stated, without pictures we would just be guessing. A clear photo of both sides of the coin is required.   
Looking forward to see what you have.

 

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It looks like it is missing the rim. Is this coin smaller and thinner than a normal cent ?

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   Welcome to the NGC chat board.

   Your images are rather blurry and pixilated, but I can see that your circulated 1951 (D or S--I can't tell which) Lincoln cent is corroded, appears to have surface damage and, most significantly, the edge appears to have been filed, which would have occurred after the coin left the mint so that the coin has practically no rim. Assuming that your scale is weighing other pre-1983 95% copper cents, which have a standard weight of 3.11 grams, within their legal tolerance of between 2.98 and 3.23 grams, the filed rim, combined with the corrosion and damage, are likely the explanation for the coin being underweight. The only "mint error"--a minor one--that would be a real possibility would be that the coin was struck on thin planchet stock--and would be thinner than normal--but even if so, this would be of little or no value considering the poor condition of the coin.

   Much of what you have likely read on the internet about coins is incorrect. It is in fact extremely unusual to find any significant mint error or other valuable coin in circulation or among random accumulations of common coins.  Please read the following article by a prominent coin dealer: Jeff Garrett: Fake News and Misinformation in Numismatics | NGC (ngccoin.com).

   Please see the following forum topics, which identify legitimate print and online resources from which you can learn about U.S. coins and how to collect them:

  You may post topics with questions about any coin on this forum, but please start a new topic for each coin and include clear, cropped images of each coin, of which these images of an uncirculated (PCGS graded MS 66 RD) cent are an example:

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Certainly not an error, it looks like it has been acid etched. The lack of rims and thinner letters 
Is an indication of this. This would account for the lighter weight.

Also yes, you can post Canadian or any other countries coins here.   
Just post each new coin on it’s own thread

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WARNING:  SOME MEMBERS MAY FIND THE FOLLOWING TO BE PATENTLY OFFENSIVE! VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED!

Welcome to the Forum!  :hi:

You may be new to this, as the street slang goes, but I am true to this.  Anyway, Danny Downer here comin' your way...

Allow me to critique your opening...

IM, a contraction for I AM, separated by an apostrophe ( ' ) is de rigeur for I'M.  And while IMA is acceptable in the rap game for:  I AM GOING TO, it's usage, here, is unacceptable in a formal coin forum.

The number 2 is an unacceptable substitute for "two." There ought to be a space between QUEEN and 1, in your User Name.

You may wish to embellish "ME," the very last word in your Topic with a respectable period ( . )

Note:  Members may feel I am being out of line here with a Newbie, but none of the old codgers can expect to appear under oath at a Senate confirmation hearing in their lifetime where it is the little things that count.  When you come to this Forum, come as a force to be reckoned with. Listen to Eminem if you wish, but change gears when you access the Coin Collecting Chat Board where, rightly or wrongly, you will be judged on how well you speak and express yourself.

As regarding your Wheatie, coincidentally as old as I am alive, the only surprise, nay, the BIGGEST surprise, is the inordinate amount of time our Sandon has lavished on a coin that can be swiftly dispatched out of hand as strictly miscellaneous and of little or no moment.  A piece the legendary Shakespeare himself would dismiss, nose upturned, as "much ado about nothing."

I do not very often make exceptions, but your piece virtually demands I do. Accordingly, if the OP were to PM me, I shall cheerfully forward to her the grand sum of one U.S. dollar to see to it her coin gets the decent burial it is eminent entitled to and most assuredly deserves.

One final matter which I shall address to the one and only @VKurtB :  Have I been sufficiently brutally honest enough with this presumably certified fledgling?

(While Moderation has approved this for printing, I wish to apologize to the OP and members who may have been put-out by the harshness of its tone.)

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Seriously. It is shameful how seasoned Numismatica folks as frequently-too-always diminishes potential discoveries as manmade like 'likely filled away the rim and natural ware...'. Then why aren't and why hasnt other Wheaty's shown up weighing nearly 1gram skeleton of the norm?

 

If I was you, I'd have that slabbed as soon as possible. And the best way too hush-up these types of accounts is too get yours slabbed. Hopefully I'll have one and then more too shush mine from a couple months ago and they know whom they are because they have flagged me too read my posts, I welcome them.

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On 10/14/2024 at 6:47 AM, COIN QUEEN1 said:

I'm I tripping...getting too excited about nothing

Yes, absolutely. 

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On 10/14/2024 at 7:47 AM, COIN QUEEN1 said:

I truly think I have discovered a new error in the 151 wheat penny... I don't know the correct terms to use  but it weighs 2.14g... Fully legible to see all wheat detail's..I have google a million times and not 1 person I found has mention anything about this coin... I'm I tripping...getting too excited about nothing please let me know what you guys thinks..*COIN QUEEN 

What does have it slabbed mean?? Im not familiar with the lingo here….. It has everything any other Wheatie has it also have some type of carving around the rim…. Are you guys here to be helpful or make new comers RUN!!!

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On 10/15/2024 at 6:26 PM, COIN QUEEN1 said:

What does have it slabbed mean?? Im not familiar with the lingo here….. It has everything any other Wheatie has it also have some type of carving around the rim…. Are you guys here to be helpful or make new comers RUN!!!

Slabbed is a term for putting a coin in a third-party holder. Like NGC or PCGS plastic coin holder.

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On 10/15/2024 at 5:26 PM, COIN QUEEN1 said:

What does have it slabbed mean?? Im not familiar with the lingo here….. It has everything any other Wheatie has it also have some type of carving around the rim…. Are you guys here to be helpful or make new comers RUN!!!

I don’t know about you, but I am here to provide the cold bracing slap across the face of reality to newcomers. When you say “helpful”, I hear “be encouraging”. That would make me an i-d-i-o-t. You have a badly corroded coin. I couldn’t possibly care less how much it weighs or doesn’t.

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On 10/15/2024 at 7:01 PM, VKurtB said:

I don’t know about you, but I am here to provide the cold bracing slap across the face of reality to newcomers. When you say “helpful”, I hear “be encouraging”. That would make me an i-d-i-o-t. You have a badly corroded coin. I couldn’t possibly care less how much it weighs or doesn’t.

That's a COLD shot, Kurt!  Fortunately, you fared better than I did.  Never before in the history of any Chat Board anywhere has a member turned the tables and directed me to my own profile, replete with warnings, suspensions and expulsions (which you had claimed are hidden) forcing me to retreat from Pickett's Charge!.  I tell you this member's got spunk.  She called me --- ha-ha-ha!---she called me---ha-ha-ha!--- totally bereft of any socially redeeming values.  She had me laughing until I was blue in the face.  But what could I say or do?  She was right.

TO THE CONGREGATION:  Henceform, by popular decree, I shall adopt the name, Lord HaHa, Lady GaGa's better half.  :roflmao:

Man, I love this place!  🤣

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To the OP, I have imnotaminion blocked because everything this person puts on this forum is INCORRECT! He/she is sour because he/she posts common pocket change and is completely wrong about the self grading of it.

You should NOT have this environmentally damaged coin slabbed (third party professionally graded) because due to the environmental damage, a grader at the table might not be able to make a determination even if it is a thin planchet underweight error due to the level of corrosion on this specimen. Besides error collectors only pay premium now for error coins in excellent condition and this coin is in very poor condition for a common Lincoln Wheat cent.

The other thing I am going to tell you is that you are weighing the coin on a cheap Chinese pocket scale and these are notoriously known for being highly inaccurate despite the scale saying PASS on calibration. Is your scale properly calibrated? Does a nickel weigh 5g on it?

Aside from doubting the accuracy of your scale, I am not going to say your coin was not struck on thin planchet stock because I don't have the coin in hand to use on my own extremely precise scale and be able to view the coin on all sides and edges.

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On 10/15/2024 at 6:19 PM, COIN QUEEN1 said:

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"Better to be silent and be thought fool, then to speak and remove all doubt." - A. Lincoln

***

First impressions count.  Rightly or wrongly, you are judged on your appearance (appropriate to venue) the manner in which you speak and the words you choose to use, as well as the company you keep.  Lady [Brooke] Astor reduced it all to three simple words now posted on the First Floor of what is still referred to as the The New York Public Library, a partnership of the older Astor Library and Lennox Trust.

Her quote:  "Manners is everything."

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On 10/18/2024 at 2:44 PM, Henri Charriere said:

"Better to be silent and be thought fool, then to speak and remove all doubt." - A. Lincoln

***

First impressions count.  Rightly or wrongly, you are judged on your appearance (appropriate to venue) the manner in which you speak and the words you choose to use, as well as the company you keep.  Lady [Brooke] Astor reduced it all to three simple words now posted on the First Floor of what is still referred to as the The New York Public Library, a partnership of the older Astor Library and Lennox Trust.

Her quote:  "Manners is everything."

If her rejoinder regarding being unaware of social graces was aimed at me, I assure you she is incorrect. I am more aware than most people about social graces, by far. I simply do not care in this venue. I am equally adept and comfortable in a bingo hall in Leesport, Pennsylvania, in a flannel shirt and overalls, and in the casino in San Moritz, Switzerland in a tuxedo. My attitude is appropriate for the environs in which I find myself. This place is not so highbrow. 

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On 10/14/2024 at 6:47 AM, COIN QUEEN1 said:

I truly think I have discovered a new error in the 151 wheat penny...

And I am quite sure you have not discovered anything of the sort. I have 61 years of experience in numismatics. How many do you have?

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On 10/18/2024 at 8:40 PM, VKurtB said:

If her rejoinder regarding being unaware of social graces was aimed at me, I assure you she is incorrect. I am more aware than most people about social graces, by far. I simply do not care in this venue. 

For some reason she reminded me of the woman whose handle I cannot recall that was a Class A braggart.  She was supposed to go to Rosemont awhile back and report her experiences as a matter of simple courtesy.  I believe Ashley S was her User Name.

Not surprisingly, she never did.

Now the, ahem, Queen answered your question when she inquired as to what a slab was.  Sheesh!

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On 10/18/2024 at 7:49 PM, Henri Charriere said:

For some reason she reminded me of the woman whose handle I cannot recall that was a Class A braggart.  She was supposed to go to Rosemont awhile back and report her experiences as a matter of simple courtesy.  I believe Ashley S was her User Name.

Not surprisingly, she never did.

Now the, ahem, Queen answered your question when she inquired as to what a slab was.  Sheesh!

I knew there was a reason I missed the ANA show for the first time in 15 years. Greenville, SC; London, UK; Berlin, Deutschland; Atlanta, GA; then maybe Summer Seminar or maybe not; and then Oklahoma City, OK, where the wind comes sweeping down the plain. Likely a Pennsylvania or Baltimore trip in between those. 

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On 10/14/2024 at 5:08 PM, Henri Charriere said:

WARNING:  SOME MEMBERS MAY FIND THE FOLLOWING TO BE PATENTLY OFFENSIVE! VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED!

Welcome to the Forum!  :hi:

You may be new to this, as the street slang goes, but I am true to this.  Anyway, Danny Downer here comin' your way...

Allow me to critique your opening...

IM, a contraction for I AM, separated by an apostrophe ( ' ) is de rigeur for I'M.  And while IMA is acceptable in the rap game for:  I AM GOING TO, it's usage, here, is unacceptable in a formal coin forum.

The number 2 is an unacceptable substitute for "two." There ought to be a space between QUEEN and 1, in your User Name.

You may wish to embellish "ME," the very last word in your Topic with a respectable period ( . )

Note:  Members may feel I am being out of line here with a Newbie, but none of the old codgers can expect to appear under oath at a Senate confirmation hearing in their lifetime where it is the little things that count.  When you come to this Forum, come as a force to be reckoned with. Listen to Eminem if you wish, but change gears when you access the Coin Collecting Chat Board where, rightly or wrongly, you will be judged on how well you speak and express yourself.

As regarding your Wheatie, coincidentally as old as I am alive, the only surprise, nay, the BIGGEST surprise, is the inordinate amount of time our Sandon has lavished on a coin that can be swiftly dispatched out of hand as strictly miscellaneous and of little or no moment.  A piece the legendary Shakespeare himself would dismiss, nose upturned, as "much ado about nothing."

I do not very often make exceptions, but your piece virtually demands I do. Accordingly, if the OP were to PM me, I shall cheerfully forward to her the grand sum of one U.S. dollar to see to it her coin gets the decent burial it is eminent entitled to and most assuredly deserves.

One final matter which I shall address to the one and only @VKurtB :  Have I been sufficiently brutally honest enough with this presumably certified fledgling?

(While Moderation has approved this for printing, I wish to apologize to the OP and members who may have been put-out by the harshness of its tone.)

Still "AIN'T" AKA slang for have not opposed too applying an apostrophe"T for haven't gotten your "Charrie Popped" is precisely obvious.

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