Tmoney11 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Roll hunt uncovered these 3 beautiful wheat pennies. RonnieR131 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tmoney11 Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 Now based on photos which I have in a sleeve because I don’t want to touch them. Are these worth getting graded? The moment I think “this is the one” it seems as if I am totally wrong. The back of the 57 (more gold looking below) seems to be a little faded in a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I don't know what to say. You just became a member -- have been here a day and a half tops, and your first question concerns grading of a few CENTS you call pennies... I have a few questions of my own. What does your indispensable resource, the "Red Book" have to say about these dates? Do you know their mintages? Have you checked a site like eBay to compare what you have with the merchandise displayed there? In short, you found some nice Lincoln cents but cannot tell any of us which you believe to be rare. BTW, have you checked out the Submission Forms NGC sent to you as a new member? Have you a general idea what submitting your coins is going to cost? Looks can be deceiving. What if I told you the brown cents you shoved aside can very well be worth a thousand cents. Yes, $10.00. Only problem is even one of those coins, which may be worth twice or thrice that, still isn't worth sending in. Your coins are not going anywhere. Crack that Red Book and familiarize yourself with Lincolns, key dates to look for and a working definition of what About Uncirculated and Extremely Fine means and what those grades are supposed to look for. When you have struck paydirt, i.e. a cent or other coin worthy of a second opinion, come back, and we will be happy to weigh in. Screen the coins you have, find something interesting, and we will be happy to assist you. Fair enough? GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 While these are good finds and are in decent condition, none of these would be worthy of submitting to a TPG. The 50's ones for sure had high mintages as well as many collectors storing these in gem BU by the roll, especially this late in the series. I myself have a full roll of 1957 gem RD BU that the entire roll would grade between MS 65 RD and MS 66 RD. The cents you have posted here have very visible circulation chatter on them, along with some hits. The 58 D is probably the best of the three but it is so common in high grades with full red color that yours in midgrade RB would be worth $4-$8. The grading fee for the modern tier alone would cost three times what the value of the coin is. Other than some of the key dates and major 55 variety, cents from this series typically don't see premiums unless they are in choice, or gem BU, RD in color, and at least in the early 30's or earlier date wise. By the 40's and for sure by the 50's the mintage numbers are just too high along with collectors hoarding these by the roll for anything less than fully gem BU red to have substantial value. Tmoney11 and GoldFinger1969 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tmoney11 Posted June 14 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 14 Henri, As a new hobby I thought this was the point of this “newbie” board is to post things like this and learn from others with more experience that wish to share insight. As a newbie myself how am I suppose to know like an expert what is up to your standards of excellence to post about when thats why people like myself are looking to learn from those that take the time to share and teach us with no experience. I agree and trust me I am trying to learn as quickly as I can with all the reading I can handle. I actually thought these wheat coins were very nice and admirable to be in circulation found in great condition. I asked just for opinion on grading and if its worth it. Also you become a member for this very reason do you not? Is there something wrong with the term penny or pennies? I realize I am new to this but your statement of grading pennies as if that is not a thing? Please elaborate and remember your on a “newbie” board so if you don’t care for guys/ girls that are finding joy in learning from those that can share a wealth of knowledge why do you come on here? As a newbie I also would never compare to Ebay as the vast range, fakes, amongst other issues would be something I would never tell someone to compare things to learn from. Might as well tell me to type year and date of coin into YouTube and you find out its a million dollars (just try it) and then when I post it here to find out it isn’t even close then will you share your opinion? Realize grading with the categories without having the backing of training, education means things like extremely fine etc means my opinion which I am first to admit has no room to even decide at this point. I am glad to get a response like this though because it reminds me no matter the experience I gain over the years I will never discourage, talk down to, or hurt this topic with people who find passion in it new or old. I am 17 years old and I hope you don’t own any store in which you have this attitude or treat customers who walk in the door like this. If you have true passion for this then teach in a positive, encouraging manner. GoldFinger1969, l.cutler, J P M and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tmoney11 Posted June 14 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 14 Powermad5000 Thank you for the educated, respectful, and motivating response that is much appreciated and thank you for sharing. Makes sense and I will keep on the hunt with that in mind! GoldFinger1969, powermad5000 and RonnieR131 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J P M Posted June 14 Popular Post Share Posted June 14 You have some very nice looking cents. They are worthy to be saved for a coin collection folder, but not good enough to spend money on grading in my opinion. I also think you did a good job responding to Henri's post Tmoney11, RonnieR131 and powermad5000 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post powermad5000 Posted June 15 Popular Post Share Posted June 15 @Tmoney11While reading your responses and also noting your newness to the hobby, I am not sure how you are starting to build a collection, but I do want to make you aware of buying rolls of these at auction (typically eBay). Many sellers on there advertise "unsearched" rolls especially of wheat cents. They will also have rolls with an Indian head ender and a Lincoln Wheat ender or a Seated Liberty Dime ender and a Wheat ender. As I have been at this hobby for 45+ years, I did pay good money for a couple of these rolls. They were searched. And they were cherrypicked. @J P M is a roll searcher but keep in mind he is getting them from banks nearby and only paying face value for the rolls he gets. I am just giving you some Wheat cent advice on trying to purchase these Wheatie rolls off of the internet. It is generally a losing prospect. J P M, GoldFinger1969 and RonnieR131 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenstang Posted June 15 Popular Post Share Posted June 15 Quote Is there something wrong with the term penny or pennies? The only thing wrong is that it is improper terminology in the world of numismatics. A penny is used in the UK and is equivlant to a cent. Any catalogue or album will always use the word cent. If Henri did not point this out, then I'm sure someone else would have. Any coin forum that you go on, there will always be someone you will correct you on this. and not as nicely as as it was put to you in some cases. Terminology is important in the world of coin collecting. It is the same as saying "Double Dies" instead of "Doubled Die", you would be corrected on it immediately. Do not let this discourage you from collecting, being young, and a newbie, you have a lot to learn so take advice when it is given to you. There is a lot of experience on this forum that will be willing to help you if you are willing to learn. RonnieR131, powermad5000 and GoldFinger1969 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tmoney11 Posted June 15 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 15 On 6/14/2024 at 8:25 PM, Greenstang said: The only thing wrong is that it is improper terminology in the world of numismatics. A penny is used in the UK and is equivlant to a cent. Any catalogue or album will always use the word cent. If Henri did not point this out, then I'm sure someone else would have. Any coin forum that you go on, there will always be someone you will correct you on this. and not as nicely as as it was put to you in some cases. Terminology is important in the world of coin collecting. It is the same as saying "Double Dies" instead of "Doubled Die", you would be corrected on it immediately. Do not let this discourage you from collecting, being young, and a newbie, you have a lot to learn so take advice when it is given to you. There is a lot of experience on this forum that will be willing to help you if you are willing to learn. Thank you and would have made the penny or pennies connection with that short explanation. I also see and acknowledge the great experience on a board like this just felt his response was that of putting me down and insulting instead of educating. I will choose more wisely future posts just super excited to bring what I thought was a cool start of my collection to people like yourself with years of experience. I am open arms to all the educating and most responses have been appreciated like yours. powermad5000, RonnieR131 and GoldFinger1969 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Your welcome and I forgot to say nice find with those wheat cents. They would look great in an album. Tmoney11 and GoldFinger1969 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Album coins are nice finds. But certification coins are intended to be “oh my freaking gawd gorgeous” coins. New collectors largely have never seen the second type yet, and need to work first on organizing the first type first. Some day you will understand. GoldFinger1969 and Tmoney11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.cutler Posted Saturday at 08:06 AM Share Posted Saturday at 08:06 AM (edited) Welcome to the forum, and a great hobby! You are absolutely correct, the whole point of this forum is for new collectors to ask questions, so ask away and ignore the few naysayers. Those are nice cents, you might want to consider getting an album and start a Lincoln cent collection. While not worth grading they would look great in a nice album like this. Lincoln Cents 1909-1995, Album: Whitman: 9780307091123: Amazon.com: Books I also highly recommend getting a redbook of US coins. Amazon.com: A Guide Book of United States Coins 2025 "Redbook": 9780794850586: R.S. Yeoman, Jeff Garrett: Books Edited Saturday at 08:09 AM by l.cutler RonnieR131 and Tmoney11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tmoney11 Posted Saturday at 02:53 PM Author Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 02:53 PM On 6/15/2024 at 4:06 AM, l.cutler said: Welcome to the forum, and a great hobby! You are absolutely correct, the whole point of this forum is for new collectors to ask questions, so ask away and ignore the few naysayers. Those are nice cents, you might want to consider getting an album and start a Lincoln cent collection. While not worth grading they would look great in a nice album like this. Lincoln Cents 1909-1995, Album: Whitman: 9780307091123: Amazon.com: Books I also highly recommend getting a redbook of US coins. Amazon.com: A Guide Book of United States Coins 2025 "Redbook": 9780794850586: R.S. Yeoman, Jeff Garrett: Books Purchased book this morning and excited to get. I have been going to the bank and getting about $50 a week in Lincoln Cents and putting away what I think are nice finds. I started a coin album and in addition bought sleeves to start a three ring binder. I of course want to find the million dollar coin just like anyone but truly enjoy more the history and learning process. My grandpa has several mason jars full of Morgans and some flying eagle coins that now I cant wait to look at and admire. He lives hours away so just dying to make the trip. Truth be told if he had a six figure coin or above I would rather keep it as it would mean more to me than money. Thank you all and I can’t believe more people aren’t into this as it seems fascinating to me. powermad5000, GoldFinger1969 and l.cutler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted Saturday at 03:11 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:11 PM (edited) On 6/14/2024 at 7:44 PM, Tmoney11 said: Henri, As a new hobby I thought this was the point of this “newbie” board is to post things like this and learn from others with more experience that wish to share insight. As a newbie myself how am I suppose to know like an expert what is up to your standards of excellence to post about when thats why people like myself are looking to learn from those that take the time to share and teach us with no experience. I agree and trust me I am trying to learn as quickly as I can with all the reading I can handle. I actually thought these wheat coins were very nice and admirable to be in circulation found in great condition. I asked just for opinion on grading and if its worth it. Also you become a member for this very reason do you not? Is there something wrong with the term penny or pennies? I realize I am new to this but your statement of grading pennies as if that is not a thing? Please elaborate and remember your on a “newbie” board so if you don’t care for guys/ girls that are finding joy in learning from those that can share a wealth of knowledge why do you come on here? As a newbie I also would never compare to Ebay as the vast range, fakes, amongst other issues would be something I would never tell someone to compare things to learn from. Might as well tell me to type year and date of coin into YouTube and you find out its a million dollars (just try it) and then when I post it here to find out it isn’t even close then will you share your opinion? Realize grading with the categories without having the backing of training, education means things like extremely fine etc means my opinion which I am first to admit has no room to even decide at this point. I am glad to get a response like this though because it reminds me no matter the experience I gain over the years I will never discourage, talk down to, or hurt this topic with people who find passion in it new or old. I am 17 years old and I hope you don’t own any store in which you have this attitude or treat customers who walk in the door like this. If you have true passion for this then teach in a positive, encouraging manner. Tmoney, your point is well-taken...understand that in recent months (years ?) we have been INUNDATED with 1st-time posters and New Members who post about finding a certain $5,000 coin in some change or a roll. Sandon has his cautionary post on speed dial or CTRL-V. I can't recall the last time a New Member posted here saying they wanted to LEARN about a particular coin or series like Double Eagles or Morgan Silver Dollars or Franklins or Walking or Standing coins. Anyways, welcome aboard....and don't take our exasperation personally. It's not you, it's the repetitiveness. Nice finds, BTW...and if you express an interest in any of MY coins, I will be happy to steer you in the right direction. Edited Saturday at 03:13 PM by GoldFinger1969 powermad5000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmoney11 Posted Saturday at 03:44 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:44 PM On 6/15/2024 at 11:11 AM, GoldFinger1969 said: Tmoney, your point is well-taken...understand that in recent months (years ?) we have been INUNDATED with 1st-time posters and New Members who post about finding a certain $5,000 coin in some change or a roll. Sandon has his cautionary post on speed dial or CTRL-V. I can't recall the last time a New Member posted here saying they wanted to LEARN about a particular coin or series like Double Eagles or Morgan Silver Dollars or Franklins or Walking or Standing coins. Anyways, welcome aboard....and don't take our exasperation personally. It's not you, it's the repetitiveness. Nice finds, BTW...and if you express an interest in any of MY coins, I will be happy to steer you in the right direction. I get it and do have to realize that as well. This is the result of Tik Tok saying every coin you have is worth $10k or more flooding people with just wanting a pay day. I love the history and have started with Lincoln Cent rolls as for the obvious reason of getting more to look at for less money. I love the wheat cents and have been drawn to them for some reason. I do want to eventually move my way up but focus for now is learning all I can on Mr. Abe himself. Thank you for the welcome! powermad5000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted Saturday at 03:47 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:47 PM On 6/15/2024 at 10:44 AM, Tmoney11 said: I get it and do have to realize that as well. This is the result of Tik Tok saying every coin you have is worth $10k or more flooding people with just wanting a pay day. I love the history and have started with Lincoln Cent rolls as for the obvious reason of getting more to look at for less money. I love the wheat cents and have been drawn to them for some reason. I do want to eventually move my way up but focus for now is learning all I can on Mr. Abe himself. Thank you for the welcome! Tik Tok needs to be shut down. Then Etsy. Then YouTube needs to be cut back to about 1/10 its size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmoney11 Posted Saturday at 03:54 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:54 PM On 6/15/2024 at 11:47 AM, VKurtB said: Tik Tok needs to be shut down. Then Etsy. Then YouTube needs to be cut back to about 1/10 its size. Agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted Saturday at 05:13 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:13 PM The best chance of finding satisfying coins in circulation is by searching half dollar rolls. 90% and 40% silver halves can still be found, with a little patience. These have added value due to the silver they contain, and not as collector's pieces. There are very, very few coins in circulation that are of interest to collectors or have anything more than a slight premium above face value. The doubled die cents and other denominations with naked-eye doubling are the ones to look for, but the odds are very much against you. The places VKurtBS mentioned are almost entirely packed with liars and frauds. Tmoney11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted Saturday at 08:23 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:23 PM On 6/15/2024 at 10:47 AM, VKurtB said: Tik Tok needs to be shut down. Then Etsy. Then YouTube needs to be cut back to about 1/10 its size. Followed by Temu with their large selection of cheap counterfeits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM On 6/15/2024 at 12:13 PM, RWB said: The best chance of finding satisfying coins in circulation is by searching half dollar rolls. 90% and 40% silver halves can still be found, with a little patience. Abso-effing-lutely. If you’re playing with lower denominations, all you’ll be finding is damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:17 PM (edited) On 6/15/2024 at 11:44 AM, Tmoney11 said: This is the result of Tik Tok saying every coin you have is worth $10k or more flooding people with just wanting a pay day. Yup, I think it's TIkTok because we had YouTube, FB, etc....in the past....and didn't see the level of people being misled today. I understand that TikTok's ease of use, wide usage, and quick vidoes lend themselves to this kind of deception. It's the 1980's all over again....it's 3 AM...and the GET RICH NOW Real Estate infomercial is on 3 different channels !! Edited Saturday at 10:17 PM by GoldFinger1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
