blankcoin Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 I found this coin in a coin market where I currently live (not in the United States). How do I know it is real or at least real enough to send it to be graded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 This purported double struck 1893 Morgan dollar is an obvious counterfeit, probably made in China over the past two decades, as have countless other fakes. The date numerals and many fine details are wrong. Compare it with the image of a genuine 1893 Morgan dollar at 1893 $1 MS | Coin Explorer | NGC (ngccoin.com). The Neophyte Numismatist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankcoin Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 Compared to the real one, she looks like Botox was injected into her lips. Something already seemed odd about the color and weight because it is almost 1g off the original weight. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Definitely a Chinese counterfeit. A Double Struck coin would only have one riim. This coin shows two rims. Mike Meenderink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) On 5/29/2024 at 1:57 PM, blankcoin said: How do I know it is real or at least real enough to send it to be graded? Why would you buy something without answering this question first? Also real enough to be graded would mean it was REAL. There's no such thing as "real enough". Its either real or not. Yours is definitely NOT REAL ENOUGH that's for sure and there is such a thing as that. Edited May 29 by Mike Meenderink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Hello and welcome to the forum! The coin you have is a very poor counterfeit with many details incorrect on both sides. Even if it was properly centered, it would still be easy to tell it is not genuine. I hope you didn't spend any money to acquire this poor fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Those can be purchased directly from the counterfeiters in China for $1.79 US, including shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 On 5/30/2024 at 7:07 PM, Just Bob said: Those can be purchased directly from the counterfeiters in China for $1.79 US, including shipping. I have seen this thing on the web before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 COME ON, PEOPLE! This piece of 💩 is STILL A CURRENT PRODUCT ON ETSY! https://www.etsy.com/listing/1681969352/1893-morgan-dollar-double-strike-error?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_-other-art_and_collectibles&utm_custom1=_k_CjwKCAjwx-CyBhAqEiwAeOcTdY0BeZPHKlyoBxZYjU0Yx7y2GkdlTZLXxREx-Qfo7NbO83vPW7jBvhoCmA4QAvD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_208914155_16902162995_69016908395_pla-336041412842_t__1681969352_12768591&utm_custom2=208914155&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADtcfRI2IkC8HmasGk1T7r5wdvJgj&gclid=CjwKCAjwx-CyBhAqEiwAeOcTdY0BeZPHKlyoBxZYjU0Yx7y2GkdlTZLXxREx-Qfo7NbO83vPW7jBvhoCmA4QAvD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 soooo...is it a matter of when does a turd stink the most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) On 5/30/2024 at 6:59 PM, RWB said: soooo...is it a matter of when does a turd stink the most? A good sized majority of the numismatic hobby is a floating turd regatta. Only a TIIIIIIINY sliver is legit. My particular sliver is the ANA Summer Seminar and large coin shows that have educational talks which ALLOW QUESTIONING AND LIVE INTERACTION. In my talk at Colorado Springs last year in June, I not only allowed questions, I encouraged them to interrupt as if I were presenting a case in an appellate court. The attendees appreciated the style. Edited May 31 by VKurtB powermad5000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankcoin Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 I didn't buy it, I just wanted to ask out of curiosity and to learn of course. Thank you all for your comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 On 6/3/2024 at 8:29 AM, blankcoin said: I didn't buy it, I just wanted to ask out of curiosity and to learn of course. Thank you all for your comments It is always best to ask first . Good for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
