Cldmonet Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I found this 1987 penny that has a raised circular (cud?) would it be something to have graded and error checked? Is it worth anything? it also has telltale marks on the reverse, of columns outside the memorial on an angle. The 2 images were to large so I couldn’t post it Any help would be appreciated Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) On 12/22/2023 at 11:16 AM, Cldmonet said: I found this 1987 penny that has a raised circular (cud?) would it be something to have graded and error checked? Is it worth anything? it also has telltale marks on the reverse, of columns outside the memorial on an angle. The 2 images were to large so I couldn’t post it Any help would be appreciated Thanks A cud is a die break at the edge of the die. I always have trouble telling raised from incuse in images, if it's raised then I venture to guess that it is a foreign substance on the coin, if incuse then probably damage MAYBE struck-through. If you are at some point able to post images of the entire coin obv and rev that would be a great help. Unless better images are provided I'd say it's not worth grading and the value would be one cent. You can try soaking this in acetone and see what happens, if a foreign substance like glue is on the coin acetone should dissolve it. Edited December 22, 2023 by Fenntucky Mike Clarification Sandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) Hello and welcome! The circular image is damage from a coin roll wrapping machine. You will see many cents from 1980 on and still today with this defect on it and it is common. It is merely damage to the end coin in the roll by the machine. The circular pattern can be "tight" like this closer to the center of the coin, or more outward towards the rim of the coin and varies. This condition is nothing more than physical damage post mint production, is not an error, and is definitely not meant to be submitted. Edited December 22, 2023 by powermad5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/22/2023 at 11:49 AM, Fenntucky Mike said: If you are at some point able to post images of the entire coin obv and rev that would be a great help. I agree. Based on what I can see, I agree that the circular defect is likely post-mint damage. See if your photo software has a function by which you can resize the file size of the full images so that you can post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) I don't think what caused that is from a coin wrapper as the diameter of the circle is too small, which would actually be smaller than the crimped roll end, and the width of the inscribed mark seems too wide (see attached example wrapper end and damage). Looks to me like it was struck by something circular, which would just be damage, as if that was a struck through there wouldn't be device details in that area which I seem to see. Also why use a scope? Edited December 22, 2023 by EagleRJO rrantique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) Put. The. Microscope. Away. or “Put ze kendle beck!” Edited December 25, 2023 by VKurtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 It doesn’t really matter how it happened. If it didn’t happen when the coin was struck, then it is damage. Also please do NOT use screen shots, they are too pixilated. What we need are clear, closely cropped photos for best results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
