Undocumented (NGC mint series) updates to Seated Liberty half dollar dies due to standardization, redesign or price of silver. 1 1

[dprince1138]

For any who may be interested.

I have been specializing in research for the Seated Liberty half dollar.  There have been a number of organized die modifications
throughout its production.  Some of these die changes have been applied to other denominations, such as the Seated Liberty dime.
(This list does not include mint specific or rare dies).

1839 a - 
No Drapery (drapery that is located under Liberty's elbow), large rock base

1839 b - 
Drapery (drapery that is located under Liberty's elbow), smaller rock base

1840 -
Small lettering (1939 - 1941)

1842 -
Medium date, large lettering (though remaining run).

1853 -
Arrows next to date (1853 - 1855), rays on reverse (1853 only). (Decrease weight of coin, due to increase price of silver). 

1866 a -
No motto ("In God We Trust")

1866 b -
With motto ("In God We Trust")

1873 a -
No arrows next to date.

1873 b -
Arrows next to date (1873 - 1874). (Increase weight of coin, to standardize value of coins globally).
 

 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by dprince1138

[RWB]

I like the 1866 IGWT and 1866-S halves.

[Coinbuf]

To anyone new to this site that reads this post, the op has shown no knowledge that would support the claims he is making.   Do not count on any of this information as factual, it is all completely unverified and may be entirely false.

[EagleRJO]

With all the other inaccuracies you have posted and refusal to answer basic questions about apparent shady coin flipping you are doing I don't think this is reliable information or something anyone cares about at this point.

[dprince1138]

It appears that I missed one.

1842 a -
Small date, large lettering 

[ldhair]

On 11/22/2023 at 12:51 PM, EagleRJO said:

With all the other inaccuracies you have posted and refusal to answer basic questions about apparent shady coin flipping you are doing I don't think this is reliable information or something anyone cares about at this point.

Actually he never will answer a question. He is out to scam the members on this site. If you make him mad he will trash any thread you start with false, off topic information. He cracks problem coins out of slabs and sells them using false information. Please report his actions to the mods. Over time, NGC will see this and correct the problem. 

[Newenglandrarities]

On 11/22/2023 at 11:56 AM, ldhair said:

Actually he never will answer a question. He is out to scam the members on this site. If you make him mad he will trash any thread you start with false, off topic information. He cracks problem coins out of slabs and sells them using false information. Please report his actions to the mods. Over time, NGC will see this and correct the problem. 

Just so everyone else sees this.  Absolutely correct and DPRINCE needs to find a new place to go.  Many of us here have worked very hard volunteering our time to have this jerk say what he is doing here.  Seriously! 

[Sandon]

  I have no idea what the OP means by these subtypes or major varieties being "undocumented", as each one of them is listed and described in as basic a reference as the standard "Redbook", for example the 2023 edition at pp. 208-212. Although the information is generally accurate, there is nothing new about it.

[powermad5000]

NGC is a mint and made their own series of coins???????????