Anyone join the new mycollect site yet? 1 1

[Coinbuf]

If so what are your thoughts on it, I looked at it breifly but there seemed to be nothing to see at the home page.

[Just Bob]

Apparently, I am out of the loop. What is it?

[Coinbuf]

Its a new website that launched today, created by Ian Russel of Great Collections.   From what I have read so far the site is an all in one site, social media/forum mishmash, but supposedly also includes some stolen coins reporting component and a coin registry as well.   I visited the site briefly today but could not find a way to navigate the site past the main login screen (I did not join so that may be the issue).   My impression from reading a thread about it on the PCGS forum is that it seems geared towards the twitter/instagram crowd, but again without being able to move around the site I'm just going on what I have read.

www.mycollect.com

Edited July 14, 2023 by Coinbuf

[USAuPzlBxBob]

Why?  What for?

There's more to life than pursuing similar coin websites than we currently avail.

No?

And so on, and so on…

[Fenntucky Mike]

There doesn't seem to be an open forum, only groups geared towards specific interests. That format is ok but makes it harder to participate with the entire community as you would have to search through all of these esoteric groups. On one hand I like that there can be specialized areas, and that you can talk coins and paper in the same place, but I much prefer an open forum format like we have here. It might be a good place to communicate with other specialists in your areas of interest but seems to lack the diversity and experience others can bring who may not collect the same things. 

[Coinbuf]

I agree @Fenntucky Mike I too cannot find a central forum or whatever that might be called in this type of format.   This seems to be formatted like FB or IG where you have to search the site to find the specific area you want.   And it seems that the individual that starts a group is in control of that group so if that person decides he/she doesn't like a member (new or old) he can simple boot that person out of the group for any reason.   This feels very clickish and not in any way inclusive, it seems to me that this will end up with a ton of individual groups of just a few people being active as any dissenting opinions or replies will be shut down really quickly.

One example I found, there is a group called toned coins, but a member started another group called attractively toned coins.   Attractive is somewhat arbitrary and while often many will agree that is not always true.   So my assumption is the person that started the attractively toned group has the say on what is posted and will delete any content that he/she doesn't like or feel fits with his/her idea of what is attractive.   That feels very cult like and exclusive not inclusive, yes men only need apply it would seem.   I guess that is basically how FB or IG work so the younger generation are fine with that, just not my cup of tea.

I also am not a FB or IG person so the format is difficult to navigate, not that I cannot find my way around or understand it but simply that its a clunky design imo.   A forum like here is easy to read, just go to the section and scan the threads for any that interest you, open and read.   The mycollect site requires you to search around for a group and then scroll down to see replies and any replies to those replies, clunky with lots of extra clicks.

Meh, I might sign up but only for access to the buy/sell area, the rest of the site is not what I would enjoy.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Coinbuf

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 7/14/2023 at 4:26 PM, Coinbuf said:

I agree @Fenntucky Mike I too cannot find a central forum or whatever that might be called in this type of format.   This seems to be formatted like FB or IG where you have to search the site to find the specific area you want.   And it seems that the individual that starts a group is in control of that group so if that person decides he/she doesn't like a member (new or old) he can simple boot that person out of the group for any reason.   This feels very clickish and not in any way inclusive, it seems to me that this will end up with a ton of individual groups of just a few people being active as any dissenting opinions or replies will be shut down really quickly.

That's the most likely outcome. 

I joined up yesterday and explored the site more today, it's not bad but definitely set up like FB, IG, and twitter, and I'm not a fan of those platforms. There seems to be some search functions that might make navigating easier. I started a couple groups and we'll see what happens.  Seems pretty dead over there so far, in the areas that I collect, but that's to be expected. Since I only actively participate here and at PMG, but lurking  everywhere , it's not a big deal to pop in over there once and awhile. Especially if no one is there. If there is nothing but backslapping going on and no real information being exchanged I'll bail and just glean what I can on occasional visits. 

[Simple Collector]

I joined it as well. Seems they are still developing a lot of areas so have to see where it goes.

I was unable to figure how to post in the group for selling coins but did not delve into it very long.

[l.cutler]

I did sign in with google to see what it was like, and immediately got a couple followers and friend requests.  Too social for me, and seems too compartmentalized.  I prefer browsing through posts on a variety of subjects and clicking on what strikes my fancy.

[GreatCollections]

On 7/17/2023 at 4:36 AM, Simple Collector said:

I joined it as well. Seems they are still developing a lot of areas so have to see where it goes.

I was unable to figure how to post in the group for selling coins but did not delve into it very long.

If you join a group - you can then post to it.  There is a box at the top to post text/images/videos etc.

- Ian

[GreatCollections]

On 7/14/2023 at 2:02 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

That's the most likely outcome. 

I joined up yesterday and explored the site more today, it's not bad but definitely set up like FB, IG, and twitter, and I'm not a fan of those platforms. There seems to be some search functions that might make navigating easier. I started a couple groups and we'll see what happens.  Seems pretty dead over there so far, in the areas that I collect, but that's to be expected. Since I only actively participate here and at PMG, but lurking  everywhere , it's not a big deal to pop in over there once and awhile. Especially if no one is there. If there is nothing but backslapping going on and no real information being exchanged I'll bail and just glean what I can on occasional visits. 

MyCollect just turned 7 days old - I think when you wrote this, we were less than 48 hours old.  Much more activity, over 1,500 people joined already (which is a lot considering it's mostly from word-of-mouth).  Take a look now - some amazing coins have been posted to different Groups and on newsfeeds of members.  Was blown away by some of them yesterday.

On 7/14/2023 at 3:50 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

There doesn't seem to be an open forum, only groups geared towards specific interests. That format is ok but makes it harder to participate with the entire community as you would have to search through all of these esoteric groups. On one hand I like that there can be specialized areas, and that you can talk coins and paper in the same place, but I much prefer an open forum format like we have here. It might be a good place to communicate with other specialists in your areas of interest but seems to lack the diversity and experience others can bring who may not collect the same things. 

All of the key Groups are open - called MyCollect Official Groups.  These are not narrow in scope.

U.S. Coin Discussion [MyCollect Official]

U.S. Coin Sets Discussion [MyCollect Official]

Buy, Sell, Trade U.S. Coins [MyCollect Official]

Post Your Newps [MyCollect Official]

There's more narrow groups, too - I made one personally for Australian Coins, for example.  

There are also some private groups already started.  We're going to add an icon on the Groups page so those are instantly obvious while browsing.

 

[GreatCollections]

On 7/14/2023 at 1:26 PM, Coinbuf said:

I agree @Fenntucky Mike I too cannot find a central forum or whatever that might be called in this type of format.   This seems to be formatted like FB or IG where you have to search the site to find the specific area you want.   And it seems that the individual that starts a group is in control of that group so if that person decides he/she doesn't like a member (new or old) he can simple boot that person out of the group for any reason.   This feels very clickish and not in any way inclusive, it seems to me that this will end up with a ton of individual groups of just a few people being active as any dissenting opinions or replies will be shut down really quickly.

One example I found, there is a group called toned coins, but a member started another group called attractively toned coins.   Attractive is somewhat arbitrary and while often many will agree that is not always true.   So my assumption is the person that started the attractively toned group has the say on what is posted and will delete any content that he/she doesn't like or feel fits with his/her idea of what is attractive.   That feels very cult like and exclusive not inclusive, yes men only need apply it would seem.   I guess that is basically how FB or IG work so the younger generation are fine with that, just not my cup of tea.

I also am not a FB or IG person so the format is difficult to navigate, not that I cannot find my way around or understand it but simply that its a clunky design imo.   A forum like here is easy to read, just go to the section and scan the threads for any that interest you, open and read.   The mycollect site requires you to search around for a group and then scroll down to see replies and any replies to those replies, clunky with lots of extra clicks.

Meh, I might sign up but only for access to the buy/sell area, the rest of the site is not what I would enjoy.

There's many groups being started - and many won't gain traction (is my prediction), but several already have over 300 members each, and about a dozen groups have over 100 already.  I would not assume that group owners will be deleting content as freely as you expect.  This is all about communities, and collectibles.

- Ian

[Simple Collector]

On 7/19/2023 at 6:57 PM, GreatCollections said:

If you join a group - you can then post to it.  There is a box at the top to post text/images/videos etc.

- Ian

I don’t see the box you are talking about. Can you provide a screenshot maybe?

[GreatCollections]

On 7/20/2023 at 2:53 AM, Simple Collector said:

I don’t see the box you are talking about. Can you provide a screenshot maybe?

Sure, here it is.

[zadok]

...to each his own as it should be, after reviewing the site i personally dont feel it fits my needs/wants the format n composition n discussions dont indicate that it will add greatly to what i am already using, of course one will miss a few nuggets here n there but to me its like having too many magazine subscriptions n time is my most precious possession....

[Coinbuf]

On 7/19/2023 at 4:07 PM, GreatCollections said:

There's many groups being started - and many won't gain traction (is my prediction), but several already have over 300 members each, and about a dozen groups have over 100 already.  I would not assume that group owners will be deleting content as freely as you expect.  This is all about communities, and collectibles.

- Ian

Maybe, maybe not Ian, I certainly could be jumping to conclusions.  But I've watched several of the members of your new site while a member of this and other coin forums over the past 20+ years.  So, while they may not be doing those things now while the site is in startup mode, some of those individuals have been less than accepting of forum members who don't align with their beliefs and thinking.  Tigers don't change their stripes, I'll bet that most will return to how they have acted towards anyone that they disagree with.  Especially as they now have power over the group they have started in a way they don't have in a forum setting. 

I get that my comments sound very negative about your new site, I'm not trying to be.   I also get that this IG, FB style format is one younger collectors have come to appreciate so it makes sense that you and your team set the site up with this format.   But I truly dislike the format, it's designed to segregate, fragment, and compartmentalize the community.  Plus it is a total time suck as you have to review each group, then scroll down to see what is happening, it just isn't a format that I like.  The forum format like here and PCGS is far easier to  view, I can quickly scan the threads and read those that interest me, simple and easy.

I also dislike that many, well over half in some groups, of the posts are dealers spamming coins they are selling instead of using a central selling group.  But again even if you can stop the spamming and get all that into a central selling place the need to scroll endlessly to  see what is for sale, ugh.

I'm sure it will be successful and I wish you well with the site, it's just not for me.  I'm not interested in likes and followers, for those who enjoy that your site will be very enjoyable. 

Edited July 20, 2023 by Coinbuf

[VKurtB]

On 7/20/2023 at 12:04 PM, Coinbuf said:

Maybe, maybe not Ian, I certainly could be jumping to conclusions.  But I've watched several of the members of your new site while a member of this and other coin forums over the past 20+ years.  So, while they may not be doing those things now while the site is in startup mode, some of those individuals have been less than accepting of forum members who don't align with their beliefs and thinking.  Tigers don't change their stripes, I'll bet that most will return to how they have acted towards anyone that they disagree with.  Especially as they now have power over the group they have started in a way they don't have in a forum setting. 

I get that my comments sound very negative about your new site, I'm not trying to be.   I also get that this IG, FB style format is one younger collectors have come to appreciate so it makes sense that you and your team set the site up with this format.   But I truly dislike the format, it's designed to segregate, fragment, and compartmentalize the community.  Plus it is a total time suck as you have to review each group, then scroll down to see what is happening, it just isn't a format that I like.

I also dislike that many, well over half in some groups, of the posts are dealers spamming coins they are selling instead of using a central selling group.  But again even if you can stop the spamming and get all that into a central selling place the need to scroll endlessly to  see what is for sale, ugh.

I'm sure it will be successful and I wish you well with the site, it's just not for me.

Not to pile on, but I liked Teletrade better than GC, too. But nobody asks what people want, they just try to maximize their own revenue. Welcome to America.

[RWB]

Looked at the site (as far as allowed without joining), but don't see much that would be useful for the parts of coin collecting with which I interact. It appears to be a restatement of what other sites offer, although being new it lacks the slimy scams and crooks commonplace elsewhere, but the presence to profit-greedy sellers sets it on that well-worn path. There is little sign of site integration which makes finding anything a painful time waster.

Things like this require thoughtful concept and design beyond what already exists.

[VKurtB]

On 7/20/2023 at 12:37 PM, RWB said:

it lacks the slimy scams and crooks commonplace elsewhere

Ahh yes, but just wait 5 minutes. They'll arrive in good time.

[J P M]

I  am a big supporter GC Ian. I also browsed around the site and found it to be to much like the Facebook sites I never use. I agree with some of the others this NGC type of site works much easier for me. 

[The Neophyte Numismatist]

I just setup my account there.  I am the same one all the boards "Neophyte Numismatist".

I have to say, I like the idea of getting into specialized groups and have more access to coins that may come up for sale.  But, I agree... I certainly is a different format than here or ATS.

[Rareseeker1]

I did as well, and found it also to be more of a social platform, maybe geared towards younger collectors who are familiar and or use platforms like Facebook etc. frequently.  According to my wife I already spend way to much time on the other forums and sites all together,  and just came back to NGC forums a few days ago.  She doesn't know that though-yet .  You know "Hobby of Kings", but she says for me  - Addiction of Baron. I can't help if being online viewing, researching, buying and viewing forums consumes most of my life if I allow it too.  Which of course she says it does. I think time will tell with mycollect as with anything. 

[The Neophyte Numismatist]

@Rareseeker1 Love the RI - "Two Hunting Dogs Running to Left in Meadow" token in your moniker.  I am just learning about CWTs, and that is a really nice one.

Edit note: 

• Fuld 1285 (store card)
• Fuld 184 (patriotic)

Edited July 22, 2023 by The Neophyte Numismatist
more research led to proper die title and Fuld #

[GoldFinger1969]

On 7/20/2023 at 1:04 PM, Coinbuf said:

But I've watched several of the members of your new site while a member of this and other coin forums over the past 20+ years.  So, while they may not be doing those things now while the site is in startup mode, some of those individuals have been less than accepting of forum members who don't align with their beliefs and thinking.  Tigers don't change their stripes, I'll bet that most will return to how they have acted towards anyone that they disagree with.  Especially as they now have power over the group they have started in a way they don't have in a forum setting.

That's interesting, CB.  To me, having a diversity of opinions and back-and-forth disagreements is one of the reasons I post on Forums and sites like this.  If everyone agreed with all of my points and opinions, what's the point of posting ?

I wonder if some individauls are either "talking their book" and defending coins and positions that could cost them $$$....or some people are just so convinced they are right.  I have seen a bit of that among economic, financial, and PM posts ATS....I see the same half-truths and falsehoods spread that I see in the media picked up by people not as discriminating as I am. 

[VKurtB]

On 7/21/2023 at 9:06 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

That's interesting, CB.  To me, having a diversity of opinions and back-and-forth disagreements is one of the reasons I post on Forums and sites like this.  If everyone agreed with all of my points and opinions, what's the point of posting ?

I wonder if some individauls are either "talking their book" and defending coins and positions that could cost them $$$....or some people are just so convinced they are right.  I have seen a bit of that among economic, financial, and PM posts ATS....I see the same half-truths and falsehoods spread that I see in the media picked up by people not as discriminating as I am. 

Yup, ATS provides more complete garbage than shows up here. Volume does not imply quality content. Many of the better posters here do post ATS, but by concentrating here I can get the same “wheat” with far less “chaff”. And I get to avoid ATS’s corporate parochialism. BUT UNDERSTAND, I am NOT banned ATS. I posted a little recently. I sincerely do not like the PCGS site. I AM banned over at CoinTalk.

Edited July 21, 2023 by VKurtB

[Coinbuf]

On 7/21/2023 at 7:06 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

That's interesting, CB.  To me, having a diversity of opinions and back-and-forth disagreements is one of the reasons I post on Forums and sites like this.  If everyone agreed with all of my points and opinions, what's the point of posting ?

I wonder if some individauls are either "talking their book" and defending coins and positions that could cost them $$$....or some people are just so convinced they are right.  I have seen a bit of that among economic, financial, and PM posts ATS....I see the same half-truths and falsehoods spread that I see in the media picked up by people not as discriminating as I am. 

While you make some good points and I agree that (imo) the forum format facilitates discussion vs photo sharing.   I can also see how the mycollect site with its specific groups could make networking easier for those really focused on only one area of numismatics, just as Neo mentioned above.

Everything has its positives and negatives.

Edited July 21, 2023 by Coinbuf

[GoldFinger1969]

On 7/21/2023 at 10:57 AM, VKurtB said:

Yup, ATS provides more complete garbage than shows up here. Volume does not imply quality content. Many of the better posters here do post ATS, but by concentrating here I can get the same “wheat” with far less “chaff”. And I get to avoid ATS’s corporate parochialism.

For stuff I am interested in -- Saints, Morgans, coin price trends, etc. -- NGC beats PCGS hands-down.

There are some veterans with great stories and information to tell ATS but the volume of posts there means its harder to find unless you are in the middle of a hot thread and they are posting concurrently.

I see someone like EC posting ATS and in the CAC Forums and that's good information to gather since he doesn't post as often here.  OTOH, there's NOTHING like the 80-pages-and-counting RWB Saints Book Thread we have here (which includes the author himself, of course ).  Searching "Saints" and the like I find 3-4 year old threads ATS that don't have any substantive back-and-forth.  Ditto other coins.

I think the other sites you have dealers and collectors talking their books and recent sales/activity...here....we have more people discussing the hobby, the coins, trends, history, etc.

JMHO.

[zadok]

On 7/21/2023 at 11:31 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

For stuff I am interested in -- Saints, Morgans, coin price trends, etc. -- NGC beats PCGS hands-down.

There are some veterans with great stories and information to tell ATS but the volume of posts there means its harder to find unless you are in the middle of a hot thread and they are posting concurrently.

I see someone like EC posting ATS and in the CAC Forums and that's good information to gather since he doesn't post as often here.  OTOH, there's NOTHING like the 80-pages-and-counting RWB Saints Book Thread we have here (which includes the author himself, of course ).  Searching "Saints" and the like I find 3-4 year old threads ATS that don't have any substantive back-and-forth.  Ditto other coins.

I think the other sites you have dealers and collectors talking their books and recent sales/activity...here....we have more people discussing the hobby, the coins, trends, history, etc.

JMHO.

...u want stories?...find a local coin club one that has a 50+ year history n go listen to their stories n meet old time collectors, they r eager to talk after the meetings...ditto for national club meetings at bigger coin shows after their meetings r over...of course there wont be any footnotes but stories u will get....

[VKurtB]

On 7/21/2023 at 12:47 PM, zadok said:

...u want stories?...find a local coin club one that has a 50+ year history n go listen to their stories n meet old time collectors, they r eager to talk after the meetings...ditto for national club meetings at bigger coin shows after their meetings r over...of course there wont be any footnotes but stories u will get....

Harrumph, harrumph. If they don’t take notes and put those notes in a document archive somewhere, SOMEBODY claims those stories are something less, something that doesn’t even exist. 

I prefer to BE AT MEETINGS where current numismatic history is being written. Others can make their cred reading dusty archives. I choose to BE IN THE ARENA. The most recent ANA convention that I was NOT present for (that wasn't canceled) was the 2009 Los Angeles one. My run of constant attendance starts at Boston 2010. The reason I miss my next one will be "death". Of course, that could be in three weeks. I dunno.

Edited July 21, 2023 by VKurtB

[GoldFinger1969]

Ian, will my login to GC work for MyCollect ?