2009 LP4, 2 roll boxed set from the Mint-Die gouge? 1 1

[Lee Coen]

Bought a 2 roll boxed set from the mint-in white box-many have the dreaded black grease spots on them- The one pictured has a gouge from left to right-Is this a mint error or spend it? thanks

[Reno Raines]

Im not sure but I think it's just spending money. Hopefully someone with more coin collecting experience will be able to answer you in more detail soon.

[Lee Coen]

Love finding errors on cents...but who knows? Thanks

[Sandon]

       Based upon the photos, which show no disturbance of the copper plating or displaced metal around the depression across Lincoln's bust, I think that this is an example of a type of mint error called a "strikethrough", which results from a foreign object, such as a bit of scrap metal, being on the die or planchet as the coin is struck. This creates a depression on the struck coin in the outline of the foreign object.  This type of error usually isn't valuable, but it is interesting. (A "die gouge" would result in a raised area on the coins struck from the die.)

   I assume that none of the other coins in the roll shows this strikethrough. It is possible that the foreign object was present for one strike or for multiple strikes, as on the much older cents about which I wrote in the following topic:

 

[Reno Raines]

On 7/1/2023 at 9:31 PM, Lee Coen said:

Love finding errors on cents...but who knows? Thanks

I'm currently working on a set of burnished ASE's that have already been pre graded NGC MS70. Once I finish that I plan on buying some gold coins. 

[Lee Coen]

On 7/1/2023 at 6:50 PM, Sandon said:

       Based upon the photos, which show no disturbance of the copper plating or displaced metal around the depression across Lincoln's bust, I think that this is an example of a type of mint error called a "strikethrough", which results from a foreign object, such as a bit of scrap metal, being on the die or planchet as the coin is struck. This creates a depression on the struck coin in the outline of the foreign object.  This type of error usually isn't valuable, but it is interesting. (A "die gouge" would result in a raised area on the coins struck from the die.)

   I assume that none of the other coins in the roll shows this strikethrough. It is possible that the foreign object was present for one strike or for multiple strikes, as on the much older cents about which I wrote in the following topic:

 

Thanks, only cent in the roll with this issue...

[Coinbuf]

Are there any areas in the mark that are silver in color?   The photos are not the best but it seems that close to the VDB at the center of the mark it looks silver like the zinc core is showing thru.   If that is the case then a simple scratch is the most likely answer.

[Lee Coen]

On 7/1/2023 at 7:37 PM, Coinbuf said:

Are there any areas in the mark that are silver in color?   The photos are not the best but it seems that close to the VDB at the center of the mark it looks silver like the zinc core is showing thru.   If that is the case then a simple scratch is the most likely answer.

nope, just as seen, not a simple scratch.

[Coinbuf]

On 7/1/2023 at 7:58 PM, Lee Coen said:

nope, just as seen, not a simple scratch.

Propblem is that the photos are not good enough, when I attempt to zoom in on my phone the photo gets too pixilated to be of any value.   It might be a strikethrough or it may not, can you provide any high resolution photos of just the mark itself.

[VKurtB]

Looks like elongated plating defects.

[powermad5000]

I am not exactly sure if there is a strike through error on this coin. To me, the lines on the right side of the flap on Lincoln's suit look like linear plating bubbles. I want to say to the left side of the flap on Lincoln's suit would be a strikethrough error for a piece of wire, BUT, I note one other small line near the rim under the larger line. What are the chances that a mint error for a struck through piece of wire took a small hit right under that area that is perfectly parallel to the potential strikethrough?? I am going to say the graders would cast this coin as physically damaged.

[Lee Coen]

Here are a few more I took last night---thank you

[J P M]

It does not look like a scratch to me. It looks more like a strikethrough or a heavy hit that did not break the copper plating.

[EagleRJO]

I don't think the mark is from either a scratch or heavy hit.  There is no evidence of the zinc core showing or evidence of any displaced metal on either side of the mark, like there would be if it was a scratch or heavy hit (i.e. similar to earth from a farmer's plow).  Also, if it was a scratch or heavy hit you would expect the higher areas of Lincoln's coat around the lapel would have a deeper mark, but that is not the case as it appears the mark is deeper on either side of the coat lapel.

Accordingly, it does appear to be some type of a struck-through error, although I'm not sure about a piece of wire the way it looks below the date, unless perhaps that end of the wire bounced or rolled a bit when being struck.  Better pics in that area below the date might be helpful.

P.S. For a struck-through to have any value it needs to be established what was struck thru, which still seems to be somewhat of a mystery.

Edited July 5, 2023 by EagleRJO

[powermad5000]

If NGC cannot determine what the object that was that the coin was struck through, they will just label the slab as MINT ERROR - STRUCK THROUGH. I have a lot of graded strike through errors and they all simply state Mint Error - Struck Through.