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NGC Price Guide for NCS coins
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I know that NGC doesn't put a value or specific grade on conserved coins, whether in the NGC holders today, or the NCS holders from years past.

I was surprised at a couple of things I encountered this weekend:

1. Of all the 1883 Hawaiian coins 1c, 10c, 25c, half dollar and dollar, the only one I found in the NGC Price Guide is the 25c coin, and those with a census under 125 coins.

2. I understand that MANY of these coins were melted, leaving surviving quantities unknown.

3. While not expecting values of graded coins vs details graded coins, I was surprised at how many sales, just on EBAY for example. many details holders from NGC, fewer from PCGS. The especially surprising part is the cleaned or otherwise problematic "details" coins were selling for many hundreds or even many thousands of dollars.

So, here's the question: Since NGC reports coin sales, would NGC consider adding a price guide section on coins that are DETAILS GRADED sales, not on every coin in history, but certain groups that seem to be overwhelmingly cleaned and so forth, such as the Hawaiian series in 1883, and I suspect other sets of which I am unaware.  '

Like me, I don't think collectors would find value in a detailed graded Kennedy Half dollar, a Sacagawea dollar, Jefferson nickel and most modern coins since they are the true exceptions, rather than the rule.

Secondarily, is is possible there is data that NGC Price Guide can find or add to other 1883 Hawaiian issues, other than JUST the quarter dollar? Census data? Any sales?  While I don't suggest anything deliberate, it just seems unlikely that collectors who are willing to pay many thousands of dollars for NGC or PCGS DETAILS GRADED, haven't bought ANY graded Hawaiian coins other than a 25c when most of those sales that appear in the NGC Price Guide occurred 5 to 11 years old.

Admittedly, I own an NCS slabbed Hawaiian Details Graded coin, one of them shown below. 

Anyway, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the subject, particularly because it seems so little is available, welcome from NGC or from other collectors.

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Hello @BULLY, thank you for contacting us. These are some good suggestions that you have! I will be happy to forward your post/suggestions on to upper management to see if these details can be added to our Price Guide/Census. Kindly keep in mind that if they do decide to implement these changes, it would take our Web Development team some time to create these categories.

In the meantime, please let us know if you have any additional questions. Thank you!

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