B.C Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Hey guys Proof coin raised ⭕ framed in a square any ideas 3rd one I've found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Looks like some kind of corrosion. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Do straight lines happen in nature sorry corrosion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hoghead515 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) I had something simular happen on a brand new 2019 ASE. Looks like some corrosive chemical or material dropped on it at the mint. If I can find a picture of it ill share. I bought this coin straight from the mint. Edited December 20, 2022 by Hoghead515 rrantique and Coinbuf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Corrosion caused by minute surface contamination. The offending particle is at the center of the damage and might not be visible. Not repairable. Each time proof or similar special coin is exposed to the air, the chances of this happening increase. Unless there is some compelling reason to remove from the original protective packaging, leave it alone. Edited December 20, 2022 by RWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Something got on it or a speck of something got in the the molten metal before it was even born after time it shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.cutler Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Spot of contaminant, and the start of corrosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Corrosion is not considered an error, it is damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 2:58 PM, Greenstang said: Corrosion is not considered an error, it is damage. Subject to what foreign object is causing the corrosion The coin came back from ngc with a straight grade not a damaged label or body bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 It’s a corrosion spot, period. Drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Sheep 🐑 once one goes down the wrong road all go down the wrong road Kurt go get sheared don't you have packages to deliver So let me understand correct a coin graded from ngc as mint error pf67 Struck thru is nothing more then corrosion and damage ok got it thanks for all the help you guys are great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhair Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 7:30 PM, B.C said: Sheep 🐑 once one goes down the wrong road all go down the wrong road Kurt go get sheared don't you have packages to deliver So let me understand correct a coin graded from ngc as mint error pf67 Struck thru is nothing more then corrosion and damage ok got it thanks for all the help you guys are great Please show us the slab. Rod D. and l.cutler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandon Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 @B.C-- I didn't previously post in this topic. Could you please post a photo of the entire holder, including the coin and its label? If there is any strikethrough error, it must be at the center of the affected area and hard to discern from your photos. Most of the discoloration is clearly toning/corrosion. The foreign matter that caused the strikethrough could have been struck into the coin and chemically reacted with the surrounding coin metal. Would it really be fair to accuse our members of incompetence under these circumstances? In any event, if the coin was already certified as an error, you didn't need their help and wasted their time. The "67" grade would be unusually low for a modern proof coin, of which most typically grade "69" and most of the rest typically grade "70". This lower than usual grade would likely be due to the unattractive toning around the strikethrough. Hoghead515, Rod D., EagleRJO and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Would it really be fair to accuse our members of incompetence under these circumstances? Did I ask for anyone's advice on the grade did I ask if it's an error worth sending to ngc did I ask if anyone agreed with ngc NO I asked if anyone could Id the only part of importance but I now see you all need a label to guess it's corrosion In any event, if the coin was already certified as an error, you didn't need their help and wasted their time. Ngc uses a blanket title which usually isn't good enough for me I like to determine what was struck thru your all wasting my time by blowing smoke about nothing I asked look at you talking grades when the thing is graded how dumb “” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Was the purpose of this thread to see how many people you could fool into making the wrong assumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 No but sure turned into that didn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 @B.C I agree with Sandon's comments, and I am left wondering why you don't just post the TPG label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) On 12/20/2022 at 6:15 PM, B.C said: Subject to what foreign object is causing the corrosion The coin came back from ngc with a straight grade not a damaged label or body bag Everyone is trying to help but you only gave us half the information. A straight grade was said. You also said........So let me understand correct a coin graded from ngc as mint error pf67 Struck thru is nothing more then corrosion and damage ok got it thanks for all the help you guys are great On 12/20/2022 at 9:54 PM, B.C said: Would it really be fair to accuse our members of incompetence under these circumstances? Did I ask for anyone's advice on the grade did I ask if it's an error worth sending to ngc did I ask if anyone agreed with ngc NO I asked if anyone could Id the only part of importance but I now see you all need a label to guess it's corrosion In any event, if the coin was already certified as an error, you didn't need their help and wasted their time. Ngc uses a blanket title which usually isn't good enough for me I like to determine what was struck thru your all wasting my time by blowing smoke about nothing I asked look at you talking grades when the thing is graded how dumb Now it is a error coin ? Almost everyone said it is corrosion from whatever is on or in the coin. We can not say what it is, only what has happened to it. I am not sure what you would like from us. You say we are wasting your time? I think it is the other way around. Edited December 21, 2022 by J P M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I still think the tpg label needs to be posted with full pics of both sides. What is the strikethrough? J P M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Another con man OP. Say it ain’t so, Joe! If NGC did actually call that coin a strike through, then NGC was wrong. It’s contamination. And even though you never showed the last two digits of the date, it’s in the 1992-1998 interval - the Spaghetti hair era. Edited December 21, 2022 by VKurtB Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhair Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Questions and thoughts. Maybe the error is on a different part of the coin and we can't see it. Did NGC call it (struck thru)? Maybe the spot was not there or was tiny when the coin was graded? I can't see NGC giving the coin a 67 with a spot that ugly. An image of the slab would help set a time frame for when the coin was graded. It's almost impossible to say for sure what landed on the coin to create a spot such as this. We can only guess. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Like I said, I still think the tpg label needs to be posted with full pics of both sides, as well as what the strikethrough was. Otherwise its just the op blowing smoke. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike824 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 8:30 PM, B.C said: Sheep 🐑 once one goes down the wrong road all go down the wrong road Kurt go get sheared don't you have packages to deliver So let me understand correct a coin graded from ngc as mint error pf67 Struck thru is nothing more then corrosion and damage ok got it thanks for all the help you guys are great Dude, it's corrosion. Period. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“” Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 It looks like a carbon spot to me. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I dont think it even has strike through. I seriously dont think the label says it does neither or he would have been quick to show proof. If it is struck through its somewhere else on the coin. Its not that spot. Just another person who is mad because no one will agree that its something its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The op is just blowing smoke until we see full pics and the label. Might just be another poser, but we will see. Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.cutler Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Well he keeps checking in here but won’t reply or post the pictures, read what you want into that! Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 4:02 AM, l.cutler said: Well he keeps checking in here but won’t reply or post the pictures, read what you want into that! Or it's got so creepy with the stalking he could careless about a quarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 9:29 AM, Hoghead515 said: I dont think it even has strike through. I seriously dont think the label says it does neither or he would have been quick to show proof. If it is struck through its somewhere else on the coin. Its not that spot. Just another person who is mad because no one will agree that its something its not. Or he can't carry his entire collection in his front pockets like some ⬆️ Hoghead515 and EagleRJO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
