foundit Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 I almost forgot to pass this on - if you research Canadian mint error types, the Canada 25 cent piece has what's called " a rippled strike " that's why , the damage is uniform on both sides - the pics suck, so idk wat ur seeing on ur end - it amazes me the arrogance here, it seems to ooze from the pores so bad ,that the stench , actually comes through the pda- this coins condition seems to b a thing that happens north of boarder - if it was road kill or a post mint situation , the damage would have taken the thin nickel finish off and exposed the steel core, no where , is it like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldhoopster Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) On 10/19/2022 at 10:52 AM, foundit said: I almost forgot to pass this on - if you research Canadian mint error types, the Canada 25 cent piece has what's called " a rippled strike " that's why , the damage is uniform on both sides - the pics suck, so idk wat ur seeing on ur end - it amazes me the arrogance here, it seems to ooze from the pores so bad ,that the stench , actually comes through the pda- this coins condition seems to b a thing that happens north of boarder - if it was road kill or a post mint situation , the damage would have taken the thin nickel finish off and exposed the steel core, no where , is it like that All we have is your opinion. How about some pics or links of this type of error. Surely there must be something out there. Anything already attributed in a slab? Anything describing this type of error in a reference like www.error-ref.com ? Any postings on the various sites from byers, or diamond, or Weinberg talking about this type of error? Things like that will add credibility to your opinion. You could start by posting some decent pics of your coin. The OP pics do a great job of showing the background but leave the actual coin small and blurry Edited October 19, 2022 by Oldhoopster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 If I were a gambling man (too risk averse), I would bet the OP is using coinsandcanada.com as his source. This website has been talked about in many other forums - it's a better reference than say Etsy, but nothing close to as reputable as the resources you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldhoopster Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 3:33 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said: If I were a gambling man (too risk averse), I would bet the OP is using coinsandcanada.com as his source. This website has been talked about in many other forums - it's a better reference than say Etsy, but nothing close to as reputable as the resources you mentioned. I use www.coinsandcanada.com for their price guide which I think is decent but haven't used much else on the site. If you're trying to convince members that your opinion is correct, you need to post some, data, links or other proof. Especially if you're going to rely on poor quality pics and then belittle the members for disagreeing like @foundit did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundit Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 For the record, I really don't care what anyone thinks,Iwas looking for some opinions/answers and then looking for any consistencies , all I seemed to get was migget foot ball,as far as belittling, give me a break, read the coded/sheilded garbage thats coming in my direction, especially the standing down thing, wat a joke - anyways, yea I know the pics are low quality, oh well, who cares, I don't, that's for sure - the answer to the question on where it came from is this, had to get a couple of us quarter rolls from a boa for change purposes, and that coin and a 2013 Canadian war of 1812( in proof like condition) were in the rolls - was totally surprised, to to put it lightly. I all have to back track on where I found the Canada mint error info. Be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 10:52 AM, foundit said: .... it amazes me the arrogance here, it seems to ooze from the pores so bad ,that the stench , actually comes through the pda.... Well, I wouldn't go that far. Some members take the hobby, seriously. One such collector is asking you to substantiate your claim and you're quick to put the onus on him, and by extension, the rest of us by directing we research the issue. Nobody doubts the coins have an odd look, but to suggest they were a mint by-product, is a stretch. Oldhoopster and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @foundit: Re "standing down"... there is no way I can prove it, but my gut instinct tells me when the weight of the opinion is considerable, if not conclusive, your average collector will reconsider the evidence and walk away. He will not submit to a TPGS. It is, of course, possible, a dissenting view will be offered, but I personally would not submit in the absence of any such encouragement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Too few people understand how FEW things can happen to a coin inside a mint, and the nearly unlimited nastiness that can happen to it after it has left a mint. I’d put the ratio at one to several thousand, at a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hoghead515 Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 5:19 PM, foundit said: For the record, I really don't care what anyone thinks,Iwas looking for some opinions/answers You wanted opinions and thats what we gave you. May not be the ones you was hoping to hear. I would rather someone be honest with me rather than get my hopes up. The ones who have commented on the coins deal with coins on a daily basis. Some have careers in numismatics. They have years of experience and knowledge looking at coins and collecting. They know how the minting process works. One in particular has done extensive research and wrote books on the minting process. They know every way a error can occur at the mint. If you dont want to hear what they have to say then why even ask? You have got opinions by some of the most qualified experts in the country. There are literally hundreds of ways coins can be damaged after the mint process. Not just get skinned up by being ran over. There are many chemicals that can damaged coins and give them that wavy effect like the Canada coin has. There are literally hundreds of damaged coins posted on this forum and they come in all sorts of different conditions. These guys on here give honest and to the point facts and opinions on here. They are blunt and to the point. And from the pictures you provided I thought they were very fair opinions. If you really think they are wrong and would like another opinion then you need to figure out how to post better pictures. But most here are qualified enough in the hobby they can tell by the pictures you used that they are damaged. What caused the damage they may not be able to tell you, but they can tell you if it happened during the minting process or not. They are not going to lie and tell you that its a valuable error just to make you feel better. They are not going to sugar coat it neither. They are going to defend the opinion they gave you if you try to second guess them also. Cant really get mad at them for that. The ones who answered your questions are more than qualified to do so. Sandon, zadok and Oldhoopster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
