JKN58 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Still sorting thru Dads old collection and found this 1947/51 Spain Peseta. Looks like maybe it was oversruck on another coin or possibly a strike through. Look below neck line. Could not research any other examples. Thoughts? Fenntucky Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Can you post some close ups of the area in question? Preferably straight on and oriented correctly. The image quality looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKN58 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 Fenntucky, here are some other pics. Thx for reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) [I believe the mystery to this goes beyond overstrikes, understrikes, weak strikes, bold strikes, broad strikes, strike-throughs, etc. Your father kept these coins for purely personal reasons. The fact that they may display specific coin characteristics as defined by another continent, decades later, is incidental. That's my take.] 🐓 Edited December 12, 2021 by Quintus Arrius Add closing bracket; add word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Does look like there might be something there, my first thought was a die clash but I'm having a hard time matching the markings. Do the marks match the design on the other side? Definitely interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 12:52 PM, Fenntucky Mike said: Does look like there might be something there, my first thought was a die clash but I'm having a hard time matching the markings. Do the marks match the design on the other side? Definitely interesting. I think it is a die clash, Mike. I think what we're seeing is a clash of the reverse eagle's head and the scroll around it. I have no idea on how to make an overlay, so I hope that this little message is enough for everyone to discern what I'm seeing. Fenntucky Mike and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Looks like a die clash to me. Just guessing. Im still in the learning process myself so I could be wrong. Mohawk and Fenntucky Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oldhoopster Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) It's a clashed die. As @Mohawk posted, you're seeIng the eagle's head and scroll, since it was struck with a coin alignment Edited December 12, 2021 by Oldhoopster Hoghead515, Fenntucky Mike and Mohawk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Clashed dies - dies came together without a planchet between them. No trace of anything resembling "1951" date. How did the OP determine this was "1947/1951" ? Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldhoopster Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 2:21 PM, RWB said: Clashed dies - dies came together without a planchet between them. No trace of anything resembling "1951" date. How did the OP determine this was "1947/1951" ? On many of these Spanish coins, there is a "series" date (1947 in this case) and a minted date. The minted date is located on the 2 stars on either side of UNA on the reverse. 19 is on the lower star and 51 is on the upper star. Later series such as 1957 only use one star with the last 2 digits of the date. I think this holds try for all of the minor denominations, but haven't looked them up for confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKN58 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 Mohawk and Oldhoopster are correct I think. The marks do seem to align with eagle head and scroll from reverse. Does this add any value to the coin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohawk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 3:28 PM, JKN said: Mohawk and Oldhoopster are correct I think. The marks do seem to align with eagle head and scroll from reverse. Does this add any value to the coin? Probably not. The error market in general is very small, and most of it is focused on U.S. errors. European errors are not very popular. Most European collectors want an error free version of a particular coin. As a result, there is next to no demand for European errors. I'd say your coin is likely worth whatever a buyer is willing to pay for it, if you can manage to find a buyer. Oldhoopster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 1:10 PM, Mohawk said: I think it is a die clash, Mike. I think what we're seeing is a clash of the reverse eagle's head and the scroll around it. I have no idea on how to make an overlay, so I hope that this little message is enough for everyone to discern what I'm seeing. Yeah, I went down that path but it just wasn't matching up in my brain for some reason. I'm not firing on all cylinders today. Hoghead515 and Mohawk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 2:39 PM, Oldhoopster said: On many of these Spanish coins, there is a "series" date (1947 in this case) and a minted date. The minted date is located on the 2 stars on either side of UNA on the reverse. 19 is on the lower star and 51 is on the upper star. Later series such as 1957 only use one star with the last 2 digits of the date. I think this holds try for all of the minor denominations, but haven't looked them up for confirmation. ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
