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Letters “LAR” fade on Kennedy’s what is it from?
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Technically I’m still new and this is something I’ve just become aware of. I’m coming across coin after coin with this fade. Sometimes the top of the coin has it but mostly it’s just at the end of the “dollar” word on the reverse of the Kennedy half dollar at the bottom. It’s like it went through circulation with everyone touching it in the same spot, which I doubt is the case, and caused it to wear in that one area. Is the mint machines set up where they begin to tilt and the machinery positions awkward on coins because they have different mint marks and years. There are as many of these coins I have come across as there are ones with the ring ground into them.

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On 9/18/2021 at 7:47 AM, J P Mashoke said:

Looks like it is PMD( post mint damage) . old age or a coin roll or counting machine 

I’m not sure it’s post. Thinking on it now. The coins have the same spot rubbed. Every time a coin from 83, 79, 71, etc was put into someone’s coin machine or pinched into something they’d alll have to be put in at the exact same angle and position. I just started going through my second 500 dollar box and I’ve already come across many. The first box I didn’t pay much attention to it because I’ve been looking more in detail now. But toward the end of my first box I started noticing them. 

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On 9/18/2021 at 7:57 AM, J P Mashoke said:

It could also be a Grease filled die making a poor strike.

True, I just also thought maybe it’s where people hold it to look at it. But people usually look at the front more and it being on the back bottom right side of the coin is odd. But maybe not cause the coin is flipped. Back and front are lined up opposite to one another right. When head is up the eagle is down, when the eagle is up the head is down right? I’m gonna have to get one in my hand here in a second to see. 

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On 9/18/2021 at 7:57 AM, J P Mashoke said:

It could also be a Grease filled die making a poor strike.

The grease may make more since. They’d all have to be positioned the same. I’m gonna see how many I already put in the jar. I started sitting them aside when I became aware of them. I’m going to see if the mint marks are different.

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Okay I’m feeling kinda lazy this morning but evidently super curious about this. Going back through the ones I set aside the first 10 or so are all P mint. (The lazy over road the curious and I stopped) Different dates. Bare with me. It looks like it may be what they call the ring of death only a portion of it. When I looked at the ring of death coins, the first one had the ring pass through the “LAR” I bit higher but another did not. So maybe the P mint’s ring of death reaches low on the “LAR”. And this is what I get when it’s just a portion of death. 

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If you find a lot of them, it's likely from improper upsetting of planchets. This can cause the same parts of the design to strike up improperly. There are other possible causes, as already mentioned. Designs are subject to routine adjustment - most too small for us to detect - intended to improve die life or bring up the design better. Such changes can have unintended results.

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