DougMo Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I see this term on the HiBids auction site all the time... I'm guessing it means AU55 or there abouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 No such of a thing it either is or isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFeld Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, JT2 said: No such of a thing it either is or isnt Of course there is such a thing. A coin can easily be both - not uncirculated, yet almost uncirculated.(with very slight wear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, MarkFeld said: A coin can easily be both - not uncirculated, yet almost uncirculated.(with very slight wear). It is either UNC or Circulated cant be both AU = Circulated MS = Uncirculated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFeld Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, JT2 said: It is either UNC or Circulated cant be both AU = Circulated MS = Uncirculated Yes, AU is circulated - however, that's not the same thing as saying there's no such thing as close to uncirculated or almost uncirculated. Almost uncirculated is a grade that corresponds to a a degree of circulation, just as XF, VF and other circulated grades are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougMo Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 HiBids auction site uses the term 'Closely Uncirculated". To me that Means AU55-58. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougMo Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Just now, DougMo said: HiBids auction site uses the term 'Closely Uncirculated". To me that Means AU55-58. Pretty lame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, DougMo said: Pretty lame... yes it is and anyone trying to pass it off as such.... used car salesman talk.................playing symantecs ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) This kind of deceptive description pops up about every 25 years - kind of like locust. Unethical sellers use "closely uncirculated," "virtually uncirculated," "looks uncirculated," and other slippery language to plant the idea that a coin or medal is uncirculated with slight exceptions. Avoidance of widely accepted terminology makes it easy to claim buyers misunderstood when the inevitable complaints of over grading occur. Coins described this way invariably turn out to be EF or very low-end AU. (Based on personal experience.) PS: If the buyer can examine the coin in person, then the label "grade" is useless anyway. Edited February 3, 2021 by RWB Add PS JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, RWB said: This kind of deceptive description pops up about every 25 years - kind of like locust. Unethical sellers use "closely uncirculated," "virtually uncirculated," "looks uncirculated," and other slippery language to plant the idea that a coin or medal is uncirculated with slight exceptions. Avoidance of widely accepted terminology makes it easy to claim buyers misunderstood when the inevitable complaints of over grading occur. Coins described this way invariably turn out to be EF or very low-end AU. (Based on personal experience.) Whenever I see these terms thrown about, I am reminded that very few countries use “AU” in their grading systems at all. Most go straight from XF to Unc. Either a coin is “stempelglanz” or it isn’t, right? Edited February 3, 2021 by VKurtB JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 11:04 AM, VKurtB said: Whenever I see these terms thrown about, I am reminded that very few countries use “AU” in their grading systems at all. Most go straight from XF to Unc. Either a coin is “stempelglanz” or it isn’t, right? "Formerly" stempelglan can't be too far behind. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 2/2/2021 at 8:36 AM, MarkFeld said: Of course there is such a thing. A coin can easily be both - not uncirculated, yet almost uncirculated.(with very slight wear). Kind of like pleading guilty -- with an explanation. JT2 and MN1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said: Kind of like pleading guilty -- with an explanation. You ARE aware that there are three categories of homicide - felonious, excusable, and praiseworthy. JT2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 43 minutes ago, VKurtB said: three categories of homicide PLEAD THE 5th ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...