Hank the spank Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Show what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie15 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 whatever it is supposed to show it doesn't. Try cropping the pic and enlarging, oh yeah and giving us a hint of what you see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) There's nothing to be seen here, sorry. Yes, I see the 'E' in "ONE". Classic strike doubling. Edited September 22, 2020 by VKurtB Modwriter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 4:06 PM, Hank the spank said: Reveal hidden contents Look at E in ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Well PCGS just graded it at UA53, they dont even mention the E in ONE Very disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1917 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hank the spank said: Well PCGS just graded it at UA53, they dont even mention the E in ONE Very disappointed perhaps it has to do with how you submitted? I know that with NGC, you need to pay for the varietyplus or minterror service for most errors and varietys (except for uber popular ones) to be recognized... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 MD is neither a mint error or a variety so no need to mention it. Also it is AU53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Looks like Machine Doubling. Unfortunately value is 1 cent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Conder101 said: Looks like Machine Doubling. Unfortunately value is 1 cent. Ok Thank you, guess I won't send it to NGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex in PA. Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 UA53? UnAcceptable 53 maybe? That coinz EBay bound for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrinz Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Alex in PA. said: UA53? UnAcceptable 53 maybe? That coinz EBay bound for sure. That's funny right there :-) Alex in PA. and Modwriter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Sorry its AU53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Hank the spank said: Sorry its AU53 Where did you get the idea that the E in ONE was in any way significant? Just curious. Modwriter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, VKurtB said: Where did you get the idea that the E in ONE was in any way significant? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Just Bob said: Yeah, why is that significant? I see it, I just don't see the significance of it. The N too. I see that also. Still don't see the significance. I'm sorry, I really am, but I'm on a "jihad" to stop all this "doubled this, doubled that" malarkey. And yes, that's right. I dropped the "M" bomb right here on this forum. That doubling shows each and every indication of mere strike doubling, and I'm getting a little fed up with people not learning the difference. Sorry, it's not a great day. I feel that all those YouTube jockeys out there obsessing over "doubling" are ruining this hobby. That's where I stand on this. Edited September 24, 2020 by VKurtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) I can certainly see your point Kurt. I think that YouTube plays a major part in this problem. You can go on their site any day and find numerous "found in change, Lincoln cent worth $1000.00 " type of posting that attracts people that until that time had no interest in collecting coins until they saw a "get rich easy" post. The problem is they don't do any research as to what is a genuine error or variety as opposed to something that has no value and find it easier to just throw something up on a coin website in the hopes they have something valuable without realising that you have to search multiple thousands of coins to even find minor errors or a Double Die. Then when they realize what they have is worthless, nothing is heard from them again as they are more interested in making a quick buck as opposed to the hobby aspect. One of my pet peeves are the those whose first post is "what is it worth", not being interested in the history of the coin itself. I'm not saying everyone is like that as we do have some "newbies" that are more interested in the coin collecting part of the hobby and are willing to learn and listen to what is said when they post a question. These are the collectors I think no one has a problem helping and will someday be helping others. Edited September 24, 2020 by Greenstang Modwriter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) It would be a whole lot easier to take if it were only on places like this site, but it's not. The plethora of "get rich quick by scamming people" sellers on eBay is completely out of hand. Worthless coins being listed for multiple thousands of dollars. It's sickening. I think eBay needs to make listing more costly, perhaps. Something has to change, and quick. Edited September 24, 2020 by VKurtB Alex in PA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modwriter Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I agree with Greenstang and VKurtB. Ebay should raise the cost of selling coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Modwriter said: I agree with Greenstang and VKurtB. Ebay should raise the cost of selling coins. Maybe tie the listing price to the asking price on fixed price or BIN items? I wonder how often the guy selling a "rare" 1980 (P) SBA in AU for $6,000 would relist it. I messaged him and offered $1.50 for it. He was not pleased with me. To he77 with him and everyone like him. Edited September 24, 2020 by VKurtB Modwriter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Won't higher listing prices only cause sell prices to go up across the board for hucksters and honest individuals alike? Unless your end goal is to get buyers to look elsewhere. Local coin shop? In person auction? Doubtful. Higher prices will potentially push buyers toward other outlets, Etsy perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 8 hours ago, VKurtB said: Where did you get the idea that the E in ONE was in any way significant? Just curious. If you look at the 3rd leg on the E looks doubled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 8 hours ago, VKurtB said: Where did you get the idea that the E in ONE was in any way significant? Just curious. because you dont see an E like that on pennys. PCGS didnt give me an explanation as ro how that came about..if you pay for an error coin It should be graded as such or give an explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, VKurtB said: It would be a whole lot easier to take if it were only on places like this site, but it's not. The plethora of "get rich quick by scamming people" sellers on eBay is completely out of hand. Worthless coins being listed for multiple thousands of dollars. It's sickening. I think eBay needs to make listing more costly, perhaps. Something has to change, and quick. I'm not out for a quick buck. I've been saving my coins for years to give to grandkids some day. All I asked for was an explanaton how it occurred, I'M STILL LEARNING and I appreciate your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modwriter Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 You will always be learning. Consider this experience a lesson in coin grading. Get yourself a loupe and memorize the 5 rules of MODERN coin grading: 1.) Eye appeal (Poor, Fine, Neutral, Good, must be OUSTANDING) 2.)Mint Luster (must have all mint luster) 3.)Coloration (natural toning, no cleaned coins) 4.)Surface Preservation (No marks, scratches, scuffing, spots, no dented rims, reeded coins must not show any wear, Lincoln memorial cents and Jefferson nickels MUST have full steps on reverse. The Eagle on the reverse of Washington quarters must show chest feathers, dimes must have full torch bands on the reverse. 5.) Strike (this includes mint error coins, doubled dies, etc. -M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank the spank Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Modwriter said: You will always be learning. Consider this experience a lesson in coin grading. Get yourself a loupe and memorize the 5 rules of MODERN coin grading: 1.) Eye appeal (Poor, Fine, Neutral, Good, must be OUSTANDING) 2.)Mint Luster (must have all mint luster) 3.)Coloration (natural toning, no cleaned coins) 4.)Surface Preservation (No marks, scratches, scuffing, spots, no dented rims, reeded coins must not show any wear, Lincoln memorial cents and Jefferson nickels MUST have full steps on reverse. The Eagle on the reverse of Washington quarters must show chest feathers, dimes must have full torch bands on the reverse. 5.) Strike (this includes mint error coins, doubled dies, etc. -M Thank you will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadok Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 ...unless u want to collect lo ball coins then u can discount almost all the above..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...