Ratzie33 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Nice red cameo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratzie33 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) Edited July 25, 2020 by Ratzie33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kbbpll Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1883-PROOF-INDIAN-MOST-INCREDIBLE-RED-PR-CAMEO-NEVER-SEEN-BETTER-NR-05637-/392866739650?hash=item5b78aeb5c2%3Ag%3ArWIAAOSwUtFfBlSN&nma=true&si=0wAYp83tSgInXjsSCPDMFKEUBd8%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratzie33 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 What do you think? Does it live up to the hype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratzie33 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 I picked it up for 280... but I don’t really like talking about prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Nub numismatics Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Again? That coin has so many pimples, the color is wrong, and there is still not any reticle polishing. It looks fake to begin with. If I were you I would stop picking up coins from Toliver Rare coins, and start making sure the coins are real before dropping thousands of dollars on counterfeits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Ratzie33 said: What do you think? Does it live up to the hype? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbbpll Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 You've blown close to a grand, that we've seen, on this seller, with juiced/deceptive photos, after posting a bunch of garbage on here and getting told it's garbage. I don't know what to say except I have some real estate for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, kbbpll said: I have some real estate for sale. Is it well irrigated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbbpll Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Coinbuf said: Is it well irrigated? Oh it's more than just waterfront. It's NEVER SEEN BETTER$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ratzie33 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) Edited July 25, 2020 by Ratzie33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratzie33 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) I forgot to ask you to post a photograph of your Indian head cent cameo... does that come with or without an extra serving of centslessness? What I mean to say is you obviously have one. Edited July 25, 2020 by Ratzie33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratzie33 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 can you see the die polishing lines here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie15 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 All I can say is that it does not look like a proof to my eye and it does not show enough definition between the field and the device to qualify as a cameo. Please get it graded then post it in the holder with the grade showing to prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Think --- What does language like this tell you about the coins offered for sale? "IF YOU BID ON A COIN WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING IT GRADED BY A THIRD PARTY SERVICE YOU DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! ALL DESCRIPTIONS ARE OUR OPINIONS ONLY." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex in PA. Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 RWB has hit the nail on the head with this one. If I read that on a sellers page I'd be gone right quick. Proof huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) James it really is sad to see you throwing money away like this, I really do feel sorry for you. Edited July 25, 2020 by Coinbuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_OldeTowne Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 It doesn't appear cameo to me. But also, why buy a risk like that when you could (probably) pay that or less for an already-certified example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) I think it probably is a proof. The cameo is not real impressive and the stains probably restrict it down to maybe a PF-62. So a proof but a low end one. I think you overpaid. The sellers images were evidently done to high the staining. Edited July 28, 2020 by Conder101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbbpll Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Conder101 said: The sellers images were evidently done to high the staining. The images are also missing the giant blob of whatever it is going through the E in ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Now we're looking at the coin with "da stain" (disdain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrinz Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) This is definitely a "no Grade" coin. Carbon spotted , polished , when brought to normal brightness - damaged neck area (Env?) Hit on reverse near the E in one Looks like proof - borderline cameo low grade Edited July 31, 2020 by jgrinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratzie33 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 Sent it in for grading we will have to wait and see what the professional opinion is. I can’t disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) Is this coin really deserving of this one-drop-of-blood in the center of a shark frenzy which really ought to be reserved for outright, blatant, tricksters and fraudsters? I don't think so. Besides, what about the "chilling effect" this rat pack attack will have on the uninitiated who may be considering submitting their own specimens for review? I challenge any reader reading this right now to view the offerings presented at buyuscoins.com and state unequivocally that they found absolutely no problem with any of the grades assigned therein. [The Red Book used to advise that "Proof" refers to the special unique process the Mint uses to produce its line of not-for-circulation coins. I am strictly old-school in that regard. A proof, is a proof.] Constructive criticism offered in a spirit of good will, minus the condescending, wholly superfluous, negative verbiage, is always welcome. In the interim, caveat emptor! Edited July 31, 2020 by Quintus Arrius Rumination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 This OP is basically a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbbpll Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 18 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said: this rat pack attack Normally not good form, but you have to take into account the "body of work" on here from certain folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
