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PVC x Ancient Coins? What can I do?
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Hi,

I've got these two coins, a Kanishka I circa 150 bc and a roman Constantinus II circa 340.
Both contaminated by PVC. So far no surface damage present, only sticky to touch.
How can I remove it safely? 
We have no one who do that here in Brazil, so I'm on my own.
Common coins I do it with acetone (nail polisher remover as 100% pure acetone is not available for sale without a special permit).

Thank you in advance.

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That's unfortunate about acetone availability because one really isn't supposed to use nail polish remover. That said, if I had to choose between leaving PVC slime on the coins and using the slightly wrong thing, I'd use the slightly wrong thing. Is there any sort of a local business that uses real acetone that would let you use a little? Got a friend who works in a lab?

By the way, your Kushan piece, if your ID is correct, would be from from c.150 CE, not BCE. It's challenging to find good references for Kushan coinage. I recently went through a whole bunch of it.

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7 minutes ago, JKK said:

That's unfortunate about acetone availability because one really isn't supposed to use nail polish remover. That said, if I had to choose between leaving PVC slime on the coins and using the slightly wrong thing, I'd use the slightly wrong thing. Is there any sort of a local business that uses real acetone that would let you use a little? Got a friend who works in a lab?

By the way, your Kushan piece, if your ID is correct, would be from from c.150 CE, not BCE. It's challenging to find good references for Kushan coinage. I recently went through a whole bunch of it.

My mistake, i meant AD, i.e. CE, thank you.
I'll try with a friend of mine who's a chemist. The reason why pure acetone is controlled here is related to it's use in drugs production...

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2 minutes ago, blackfoxDJ said:

My mistake, i meant AD, i.e. CE, thank you.
I'll try with a friend of mine who's a chemist. The reason why pure acetone is controlled here is related to it's use in drugs production...

Understood. I bet it'd get good money in a favela, if one dared go there.

The nice thing about acetone is that if your friend gives you some, it will evaporate. No evidence. If you get a small amount, I would use it very sparingly, as it may take repeated soakings to get all the slime off. Two coins do not require much acetone in order to clean.

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If acetone requires a special permit, I would be wary that your nail polish removers are non-acetone, which are usually ethyl acetate. I have no idea what ethyl acetate does to coins. Since you've used it before I guess you've checked the ingredients; just something that popped into my head.

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15 minutes ago, kbbpll said:

If acetone requires a special permit, I would be wary that your nail polish removers are non-acetone, which are usually ethyl acetate. I have no idea what ethyl acetate does to coins. Since you've used it before I guess you've checked the ingredients; just something that popped into my head.

Both kinds are available. The one that I use actually contains both acetone and ethyl acetate. So far no harm noticed in any metal.
Take a long time though, around 24 hours.

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Is THF (tetrahydrofuran) available without a permit? That will work. Also if high concentration hydrogen peroxide is available, that should work quickly on PVC plasticizers. (Just keep your H2O2 away from rocket powered torpedoes -- might be injurious to your submarines....)

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23 minutes ago, RWB said:

Is THF (tetrahydrofuran) available without a permit? That will work. Also if high concentration hydrogen peroxide is available, that should work quickly on PVC plasticizers. (Just keep your H2O2 away from rocket powered torpedoes -- might be injurious to your submarines....)

Hydrogen Peroxide is. 
Thanks

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