Do you think this 1924 S peace dollar in a old ANACS holder will cross over?

[NJNCoins]

Hopefully this is the correct forum for this but i was wondering if my 1924 S ms61 peace dollar would cross over to NGC based on the pictures I have.. I know it can be hard to tell from pictures but i would like to know so i don't waste money submitting the coin to NGC.. thanks!

 

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[MarkFeld]

The images make it impossible to get even a decent look at much of the coin's surfaces.

 

Curiously, why do you care about crossing the coin?

[Mark T]

I don't see any value in crossing this to PCGS.

It is better off staying in that old ANACS slab .

[NJNCoins]

Okay thanks in hand it actually has decent luster for a MS61... For my registry set

[Danye West]

Looks AU to me... sorry...

[e1cnr]

if you figure the costs involved, wouldn't it be better to buy one already in NGC?

[Nutmeg Coin]

I think it would cross and possibly upgrade.

[Afterword]

You might want to try taking some better photos. The glare is pretty severe.

[MarkFeld]

I think it would cross and possibly upgrade.

 

I don't know how you or anyone else could form such an opinion. A large portion of the coin is over-lit to the point where the surfaces can't be seen anywhere close to clearly.

[Nutmeg Coin]

As you've said unless a coin is in hand it is hard to make serious judgments on coins. However there is enough visible on this one, plus it is in an old Anacs slab and the chances of them messing up on grade are quite small. When that coin was graded they were pretty accurate and conservative especially on easy to grade dollars. In the pics. there is nothing that jumps out in terms of marks or hairlines that would question the grade. Strike also looks quite good.

[MarkFeld]

As you've said unless a coin is in hand it is hard to make serious judgments on coins. However there is enough visible on this one, plus it is in an old Anacs slab and the chances of them messing up on grade are quite small. When that coin was graded they were pretty accurate and conservative especially on easy to grade dollars. In the pics. there is nothing that jumps out in terms of marks or hairlines that would question the grade. Strike also looks quite good.

 

It's hard enough to judge based on images. And (I think) impossible in this case, to determine if the coin might grade higher.

 

I can't even tell if it's AU or Unc.- and that's just for the part of the coin that's not over-lit.

 

I have seen many non-conservatively graded coins in such holders.

 

Strike is not going to be an issue at that grade level.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but frankly, I think it's doing the OP a disservice to opine regarding an upgrade, based on the images provided.

[coinman_23885]

I agree that the images prevent us from making a good guess or offering advice on this coin; however, the crossover (as I would define that term) question is clear. NGC doesn't accept non-PCGS coins for the crossover service, so the coins must either be removed from the ANACS slab prior to submission or you must sign a form to authorize NGC to do the same. In either scenario, you receive whatever you receive. I don't call that a crossover. PCGS would accept the coin under its crossover tier, but I see no benefit to doing so.

[MarkFeld]

I agree that the images prevent us from making a good guess or offering advice on this coin; however, the crossover (as I would define that term) question is clear. NGC doesn't accept non-PCGS coins for the crossover service, so the coins must either be removed from the ANACS slab prior to submission or you must sign a form to authorize NGC to do the same. In either scenario, you receive whatever you receive. I don't call that a crossover. PCGS would accept the coin under its crossover tier, but I see no benefit to doing so.

 

Good point and I agree that a true "crossover" attempt would be precluded.

[NJNCoins]

Thanks everyone for the feedback.. I took some more pictures..

 

 

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[MarkFeld]

Based on the new images, 61 looks about right. However, it doesn't seem as if the coin justifies the (postage and grading) expense of cracking it out and trying to get it in an NGC holder. Why not just buy one already in a holder?

[Afterword]

I agree.

[Nutmeg Coin]

Like I said, a high percentage chance it was properly graded. Probably graded by Campbell, Hargis and/or Fahey when it was graded at Anacs. Dollars are relatively easy to grade. Those who perpetually undergrade these coins ("AU") are using some ridiculous grading standards. Unless a coin has a substantial upgrade potential there is no reason to cross it from these nifty little holders.

[clarkbar04]

I think what I'd do is sell it, and perhaps the old holder will bring strong money. For not much more $$ you could buy your own 62 already in an NGC holder, and be money ahead over having it re-graded. 61 and 62 aren't much different price wise, but you could cherrypick a nicer 62 if you are patient enough.

[grip]

I think 61 was a gift.Leave it or sell it and find a nicer one.