GTG 1890 "P" Morgan

[Raisethis2]

Got this back about a month ago.

 

What say you?

 

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[jpcienkus]

MS64+

[Colorado68]

65

[MarkFeld]

64

[BillJones]

MS-64.

 

The 1890-P Morgan Dollar is a common date, but it usually comes with so-so luster and less than wonderful eye appeal. This piece is a nice example for the issue, but it is not outstanding.

[AHFreak]

Id say MS64.

[coinman_23885]

I agree with the others that it is a MS64.

[Raisethis2]

Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield.

 

[Raisethis2]

I really thought it had a chance at 64 when I shipped it. With a pretty clean cheek and neck and just one small area of chatter in the left then right obverse fields, that seemed achievable. It has that dull luster look and lacks "pop".

 

The lesson here was eye appeal. Even a reasonably unscathed coin lacking in eye appeal doesn't get the love.

[$ilverHawk]

I really thought it had a chance at 64 when I shipped it. With a pretty clean cheek and neck and just one small area of chatter in the left then right obverse fields, that seemed achievable. It has that dull luster look and lacks "pop".

 

The lesson here was eye appeal. Even a reasonably unscathed coin lacking in eye appeal doesn't get the love.

 

In all respects to our forum hosts, NGC got that coin wrong. Don't care what the slab says, MS64.

 

Carl

[jpcienkus]

I really thought it had a chance at 64 when I shipped it. With a pretty clean cheek and neck and just one small area of chatter in the left then right obverse fields, that seemed achievable. It has that dull luster look and lacks "pop".

 

The lesson here was eye appeal. Even a reasonably unscathed coin lacking in eye appeal doesn't get the love.

 

Have a very similar coin, but it's a 1902 S. Surfaces are very clean. I thought 64, came back 62. Discussed it with a reputable dealer and we agreed it came down to luster.

[Colorado68]

Will you send it off to CAC?

[BillJones]

Will you send it off to CAC?

 

It would have to get a gold sticker to make that worthwhile. My guess is this piece has dull luster, which explains the MS-62 grade.

[Walkerfan]

At least 63.

[MarkFeld]

My guess is that the lines ion the cheek are worse, in hand.

[AHFreak]

The issue in my opinion has to be less to do with the luster/eye appeal, and everything to do with hairlines that are not visable in the picture.

 

For everyone who is thinking/saying that NGC got it wrong, I will just point out that hairlines on coins are next to impossible to accurately depict in a photograph...

 

 

[nater222-migration]

Will you send it off to CAC?

 

Before sending something to CAC hoping to get a gold sticker, check out the population report for gold stickers at their website. Very few get the nod for gold.

 

http://www.caccoin.com/cgi-bin/pop_resultsg.cgi?Issue=Dollars&Type=Morgan&Desig=MS

[coinman_23885]

I think the luster in hand must be substantially muted and the piece was netgraded.