1854 Gold Dollar - Is it real?

[Brando]

Doing some reorganization, and I am trying to determine if this coin is the real deal or not. I know these were heavily counterfeited. Weight appears to be correct but I just do not know the series at all and would love to have some others weigh in on possible diagnostics. FWIW, wear SEEMS much more evident on the obverse. Not sure if that information is helpful or not, but thought I would include it. I apologize for the subpar, low-lighting iphone pictures.

 

 

 

[CaptHenway]

Hard to say from those pictures, but from what I can see I am very suspicious. Looks like one of the Beirut counterfeits we used to see when I worked for ANACS.

[BillJones]

It is hard to tell from those photos, although I like to reverse better than the obverse which looks odd.

 

Here is real one if that helps.

 

[RWB]

Hmmm.....It's as real as you want it to be....

[PerryHall]

We need better pics with very high resolution before we can ever hope to authenticate your coin. This series has been heavily counterfeited and your coin should be properly authenticated.

[RWB]

[Look at the reverse denticles....]

[PerryHall]

[Look at the reverse denticles....]

 

I'd be more concerned with the edge of the reeding as seen in the pic of the reverse. It looks like it may have been broached (coin forced through a die to create the reeded edge) which would indicate a counterfeit.

[MarkFeld]

The obverse is weak enough compared to the reverse, to make me highly suspicious.

[Conder101]

The denticals, especially on the reverse, all seem to slope strongly diagonal. I don't like it.

[thebeav]

The reverse denticles bothered me first thing.

You know, with the premium over gold, unlike fives, tens and twenties (now lacking premium), we'll probably see more bad ones and two and a halfs......

 

Paul

[James_OldeTowne]

I would buy it as a fake.

[PerryHall]

I would buy it as a fake.

 

So would most coin dealers. Most fake gold dollars are made from real gold and can be used in jewelry.

[coinman_23885]

The denticals, especially on the reverse, all seem to slope strongly diagonal. I don't like it.

 

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