Is this called a Die Clash?

[wdrob]

 

If so, is it common for there to be an impression on both the obverse and reverse? I don't see an impression on the reverse.

 

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[thebeav]

Hello,

I'm assuming that most of your photos are some sort of superimposed image that you have put together. I don't know what to make of those.

I can tell you that the most common of Lincoln cent die clashes show a pretty good ghost image of Lincolns profile on the reverse.

Paul

[wdrob]

Hello,

I'm assuming that most of your photos are some sort of superimposed image that you have put together. I don't know what to make of those.

Paul

 

Yes that is correct. All the same coin.

 

The first picture shows the depression, yet not as well as I would have liked it to have shown it. It is very obvious in hand.

 

After looking at it for a while I decided to superimpose to see just how it would match up, and I think that is is a perfect match.

 

The reverse does not seem to exhibit a clash impression. I noticed from this web site that under clashed dies, he makes the point that the clash would be on both dies.

 

Just trying to accurately label the coin in a 2x2.

 

 

[physics-fan3.14]

It could be a clash. Sometimes one die will be replaced and the other will remain - they aren't necessarily changed at the same time.

[RWB]

It's not a clash, but improper metal flow. It's very common on Standing Liberty quarters. There is an archival letter by the engraver mentioning this, but it gives no details.

[wdrob]

OK. You have both broadened my knowledge and gave me something to work with.

 

It is a butt ugly coin ( I know) but I hate letting any coin go back into circulation that has a characteristic I have seldom encountered.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

[DWLange]

Roger is correct in that the depression seen on the obverse of the cent is not die clashing. Clash lines are typically sharp, even after the die wears a bit. A vague outline of the coin's other side is the result of large, opposing die cavities causing erosion of the die surface from disproportionate movement of planchet metal after repeated strikings. The same "ghosts" are commonly seen on the larger size coins of Britain's Edward VII and the early (pre-1928) issues of George V.

[physics-fan3.14]

Dave - I'm familiar with ghosting (especially on the cartwheel cents, but others as well). I was going to suggest that, but I haven't seen it as much on US coins. Is this something you commonly see on US coins?

[RWB]

The mid letter referred to SL quarters with the other side "showing through 'spongily'"