Gmarguli's E-Bay Listings Causing Quite a Stir on Overseas Forum

[C.Urch]

German Coin Forum; sorry, no translation

[truthteller]

Most posters are complaining that the coin is overgraded and marketgraded, with some saying the coin is veryfine, or at the most, xtrafine, by strict grading standards. Some are saying that there are too many marks and scratches to garner a grade of AU58, which the grade doesn't exist in European grading. I tend to agree. An xtrafine graded coin will have tons of luster and minimal marks, much like a choice AU coin, American standards. For a rare coin such as this in UNC, it has to be a strict grade to attain the high value.

 

 

TRUTH

[EVillageProwler]

Mainstream American grading standards and tolerances are vastly different than European standards.

 

NGC is an American company. You would think those geniuses would know that and take it in stride...

 

EVP

[JamminJ]

All the hubbub does not seem to have transalated into bids.

 

-JamminJ

[CarlWohlforth]

Do you all think there would be more and higher bids for that coin if it were in a XF holder? I was wondering if the differences between US and German standards are actually hurting the value of the coin or if Germans buy the coin, not the holder.

 

Do Germans snipe? Maybe there will be some good bids at the last minute...

[gmarguli]

Reply from the other forum:

 

Wow. I hope they bid instead of just talk. I have quite a few more of these (different dates) to sell on eBay in the coming months.

 

Using translation software, it appears that they are experts at grading with photos - which one person appears to say is a manipulated photo (not true).

 

And to think, out of all those people one has to speak English, yet not a single person has contacted me about that coin. I've had more questions on the coins from Peru & India than these German ones.

[gmarguli]

I tried posting a Bablefish response over there after registering, but couldn't get it to work. Here was going to be the English version:

 

Please excuse the grammar. I must use translation software as I speak no German. If any of you speak English, please feel free to contact me via eBay.

 

I am the owner / seller of this coin.

 

I find it interesting that no one here contacted me with any questions about it. Lots of guesses / opinions about it, but no one ever asked actual questions.

 

Some facts:

 

The slab / insert is new. This coin was graded within the last two months.

 

The so-called damage at 6:00 is a minor rim bump. Very minor. Considering the assigned grade of AU58 this is well within the standard.

 

The picture has NOT been worked over as Hupler appears to suggest. The picture was taken with a 5MP camera and cropped. Nothing else.

 

By American standards (which is all NGC uses as they are an American company) this coin is an AU58 without question - only the slightest amount of wear visible.

 

Call this a VF or EF or AU58 using different standards - it does not matter. It will sell for the same.

[EVillageProwler]

Greg,

 

Don't you wish you can post what you *really* want to say?

 

Something to the effect of:

 

"Listen, you [expletive deleted]! Don't you know that you can't grade off images? You have questions, contact the seller. Or, has Germany become a 3rd world nation socially as well as militarily? Go have some warm beer and phallic-shaped meats and bid after you grow up. America Uber Alles!!!"

 

 

EVP

[CarlWohlforth]

I tried adding that auction to my watch list. It failed and seemed to say something about my cookies.

[JamminJ]

Don't you wish you can post what you *really* want to say?

 

I'll bet he wanted to call them by the name "Adolf" as well.

 

-JamminJ

[gmarguli]

Greg,

 

Don't you wish you can post what you *really* want to say?

 

Of course not. That might offend a potential bidder and since I have a lot more of these to sell, I need as many bidders as possible.

 

Now, once they are all sold... ..........

 

Clausurch was nice enough to post my response over there.

 

Man, I now know what it feels like to be attacked by the PCGS mob. No facts, no contact, just lots of accusations and assumptions. The only difference is this mob attacks with Bratwursts & Weinerschnitzels instead of slabbed state quarters and registry set awards.

[shirohniichan]

Man, I now know what it feels like to be attacked by the PCGS mob. No facts, no contact, just lots of accusations and assumptions. The only difference is this mob attacks with Bratwursts & Weinerschnitzels instead of slabbed state quarters and registry set awards.

 

You only say that because you cheat grandmothers out of their pension money.

[JamminJ]

You only say that because you cheat grandmothers out of their pension money.

 

Excuse me, but aren't you the car saleman?

 

-JamminJ

[shirohniichan]

You only say that because you cheat grandmothers out of their pension money.

 

Excuse me, but aren't you the car saleman?

 

-JamminJ

 

Yea, t'is true. But I no longer be a coin salesman.

[gmarguli]

Man, I now know what it feels like to be attacked by the PCGS mob. No facts, no contact, just lots of accusations and assumptions. The only difference is this mob attacks with Bratwursts & Weinerschnitzels instead of slabbed state quarters and registry set awards.

 

You only say that because you cheat grandmothers out of their pension money.

 

That is a HORRIBLE LIE!!! I do not restrict my activities to grandmothers!

[JamminJ]

That is a HORRIBLE LIE!!! I do not restrict my activities to grandmothers!

 

It's true. I've run into him myself and found my wallet lighter.

 

-JamminJ

[shirohniichan]

I'm happy to see Mr. G is an equal opportunist.