GTG 1867 Seated Dollar

[JIM F.]

Bought this one raw. Probably not worth sending in to TPG. Tell me what you think the grade is.

 

 

Thanks for looking

 

[FishyOne]

Looks like VF Details and graffiti in the right obverse field. I would not try it at a TPG.

[Coindude]

I agree that it has VF details, but wouldn't grade due to the graffiti.

[JIM F.]

Pretty much what I figured. It is somewhat a better date. Now for the next question, what is market price?

 

I will put it up on the other thread.

 

Thank You.

 

[FishyOne]

My guesstimate would be $300 retail for a fair market price. It is a slightly better date and the graffiti is not obnoxious to me.

[newprepper]

VF20, the shield hurts, the reverse looks VF30 to me though, IMHO

[Walkerfan]

I would only give it a F15 based on the images and the amount of weakness on the shield and the wings on the reverse.

 

It has been cleaned and has some scratches in the right facing field. I'm not sure that it's graffiti but they are noticeable scratch marks.

 

I don't think it would slab in a problem free holder.

[newprepper]

For my education, what indications do you see telling you its been cleaned? And how can you tell the differece between weak strike and wear?

[Walkerfan]

For my education, what indications do you see telling you its been cleaned? And how can you tell the differece between weak strike and wear?

 

OK--You could literally write a book about of those two topics but I will try to be as to the point as I can.

 

When a coin has WEAR as opposed to a weak strike there are LUSTER BREAKS in that area. The luster has been worn away and depleted. The area is dull and a grey color. You can really see the luster breaks with a good light source and a loupe. Knowing the series helps alot too, so that you may understand, which issues are weakly struck and which are not. Some wear may go well beyond the weakest struck coin of a given issue and then you can recognize that, immediately.

 

When a coin has been CLEANED you will see scratches and un-natural areas that are LIGHTER than the rest of the coin and they look polished and inconsitent. I notice it in the right facing field. The area will also be dull and lackluster.

 

PHYSICS-FAN3.14 wrote a decent article about grading, cleaning and such and posted it in the WYNTK section of these boards. I would suggest that you read it. It would be a good starting point for you or any beginner. SEE BELOW.

 

WYNTK Article

[JIM F.]

Pictures can be deceiving. In my opinion,this one has not been cleaned. However scratches (although they appear to not be recent) may very well keep this from being in a TPG no-problem holder. A nice type coin nonetheless.

 

Appreciate all opinions.

 

I have it on the other thread if someone may be interested in acquiring it.

 

Thank You.

 

 

[BillJones]

The sharpness grade falls in the Fine-15 to VF-20 area. I wish that the shield was a little sharper because then it would be a "no question" VF sharpness coin. The graffiti puts a damper on things and takes the coin down to a net grade of VG. I think that the $300 price mentioned earlier is reasonable.