Help please: Is there a known DDO for the 1923 Saint?

[James_OldeTowne]

I see doubling at the bottom of the digits in the date, as well as on the ASG's monogram. Three or four rays at the date are also modestly doubled.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Edited to add: fine die crack through the tops of IBERT.

[cpm9ball]

The latest CPG doesn't list one, James. Do you have photos?

 

Chris

[jtryka]

I know there is a reverse triple die for the 1926, but haven't heard of anything for the 1923.

[Mokiechan]

Yup I also checked the CPG and the net and found no references to a 23 DDO. Maybe you should send a picture to Ken Potter, I am sure there are some un"discovreed" varieties out there.

 

 

 

 

[PerryHall]

I see doubling at the bottom of the digits in the date, as well as on the ASG's monogram. Three or four rays at the date are also modestly doubled.

 

Sounds like you just described the 1926 DDO Saint.

[James_OldeTowne]

I see doubling at the bottom of the digits in the date, as well as on the ASG's monogram. Three or four rays at the date are also modestly doubled.

Sounds like you just described the 1926 DDO Saint.

I believe most of the known DDOs for the series show doubling in the same approximate area.

 

CPG doesn't come close to listing all Saint varieties, unfortunately.

[cpm9ball]

I see doubling at the bottom of the digits in the date, as well as on the ASG's monogram. Three or four rays at the date are also modestly doubled.

 

Sounds like you just described the 1926 DDO Saint.

 

While the '26 is listed as a tripled-die variety and is very common, I found it interesting to note that neither it nor any of the other DDO or RPM varieties for the Saint carry any premium at all according to the CPG.

 

Chris

[jtryka]

While the '26 is listed as a tripled-die variety and is very common, I found it interesting to note that neither it nor any of the other DDO or RPM varieties for the Saint carry any premium at all according to the CPG.

 

Chris

 

This is very true, and in most cases they aren't even noted on the holders. My 26 is in an old rattler and it was pointed out by David Lange at the Portland ANA show in 2004 I think.

[James_OldeTowne]

While the '26 is listed as a tripled-die variety and is very common, I found it interesting to note that neither it nor any of the other DDO or RPM varieties for the Saint carry any premium at all according to the CPG.

It may be because there's already such a disproportionate premium for the gold content. At any rate, when I am cataloging, I "put the glass" on every single coin (unless it's a bulk lot), and have a particular interest in scanning Saints for any interesting varieties. I sense that there are very few!

[coinman_23885]

While the '26 is listed as a tripled-die variety and is very common, I found it interesting to note that neither it nor any of the other DDO or RPM varieties for the Saint carry any premium at all according to the CPG.

It may be because there's already such a disproportionate premium for the gold content. At any rate, when I am cataloging, I "put the glass" on every single coin (unless it's a bulk lot), and have a particular interest in scanning Saints for any interesting varieties. I sense that there are very few!

 

It sounds like a great set to collect. I'll probably start a St. Gaudens variety set when finances improve (i.e. I have a permanent professional position).

[RWB]

The $10 and $20 series likely include the same proportion of doubled dies and other "errors" as do silver dollars and half dollars.

 

Saint-Gaudens coins also have edge die errors and doubling but few collectors bother to look - and slabs hide the edge.