1884 CC Big Denticle Hit

[C.I.]

Needing to use my 5 submission cert soon, looking at some of my original purchases and found this 84 CC GSA. Although she is fairly clean from the normal hits, she has one major hit close to her chin. Those denticle hits are quite pronounced.

 

Seeing how deep they are, would she grade or be detailed? Thanks for your thoughts.

 

Chet

[jerseycat10]

I don't see how the reed marks would prevent grading, but they will obviously lower the grade. I would be more concerned about if they consider those lines on the chin and jawline to be scratches or not. Hard to tell from the pics.

[RWB]

...bad "cold sore."

[Kurtdog]

Are you sure those are denticle hits or is that just the way the coin is held in the holder? Get out your loupe and take a closer look at those. On the grade, that's an easy MS64, if you can ignore what's going on around that lovely kisser. I'll say she'll market grade at MS63 for that.

[johnny9434]

ill go with kurtdog and go ms 63. if you get a better grade, that would be way cool

[bsshog40]

I think she'll grade also but if the hits look too bad as they do in the pics I'd say lowered to MS62.

[coinman_23885]

I think the coin will be come back in a graded holder; however, I think it will be market graded. Sans the deep scars on Miss Liberty's face, I could see the coin grading as high as MS64; however, due to the severity/depth of the gashes, I'm thinking that it will be penalized a full point or two.

[relicsncoins]

Looks like a 63 to me. The hit will not prevent it from grading.

[cpm9ball]

With the hits on her nose and chin, I can't see this in anything better than an MS62.

 

Chris

[$ilverHawk]

I think the coin will be come back in a graded holder; however, I think it will be market graded. Sans the deep scars on Miss Liberty's face, I could see the coin grading as high as MS64; however, due to the severity/depth of the gashes, I'm thinking that it will be penalized a full point or two.

 

I agree, except I see the coin as a technical MS63, and although the TPG s are usually a bit easier on CC mint marks, the Obverse hits in prime focal ares will bring a 1 - 2 grade point penalty. Solid MS64 Reverse.

 

MS62 at best. Not a good investment for submission IMHO.

 

Carl

[James_OldeTowne]

I think this one barely escapes downgrade, and the coin makes MS-63.

[Mr.Mcknowitall]

Needing to use my 5 submission cert soon, looking at some of my original purchases and found this 84 CC GSA. Although she is fairly clean from the normal hits, she has one major hit close to her chin. Those denticle hits are quite pronounced.

 

Seeing how deep they are, would she grade or be detailed? Thanks for your thoughts.

 

Chet

 

Here I go again, showing my lack of ability.

I see the "hits" as something else entirely, and very attractive.

I personally do not consider them "hits", in the normal use of the word.

Same comments for the nose.

Is that a Clash on the reverse?

 

Respectfully,

John Curlis

[C.I.]

John

 

I thought that myself. The denticle hits are so defined and deep makes the coin somewhat unique. In hand, she looks very clean except for those deep hits. Purchased her from the GSA sales in the 70's. Doubt I will submit which leaves me sending in only 2 GSA's for the 5 count cert. I have quite a few CC and non CC GSA's but most are MS63 and I really don't see the need to grade. No help registery wise..

 

JerseyCat questioned those "scratches". Those are planchet striations which are somewhat common with CC GSA's. As for the clashes, yes, she has a few. She is a Vam3A which includes a reverse wreath clash, spiked wing, slight N clash on neck and lower cap counter clash on the obverse. Thanks for all of your comments.

 

Chet

[mhomei]

put me down for a 64

very nice 3A good luck and keep us posted