One Dime 1871 grading opinion plz

[wanne]

what do you guys think about that dime 1871 ?

could this be a frosty proof ?the surfaces is very reflecting but has luster on it.

TIA

[MarkFeld]

It sure looks like a business strike to me. I can't tell how much luster is present, but my grade guess, from what I can see, is MS64.

[wanne]

thx mark

 

but i would tend to a much higher grading cause there is viritually nothing on the coin which dosnt

belong there.

i will try to get a good picture of the reflections.

[e1cnr]

I like it alot

 

I don't think a proof either

and am concerned about the 'clear areas'

 

the reverse below DIME and the obverse fields on both sides of the lady

- those are prime areas for light cleaning ir whizzing

 

the obverse also has some small dark spots, on the right

which looks like carbon spots rather than toning

 

if they are spots, really haed to get over 65 and probably lower

 

also the luster needs to be outstanding to get over GEM at PCGS or NGC

 

 

it sure has a nice edge/rim and great details

[MarkFeld]

thx mark

 

but i would tend to a much higher grading cause there is viritually nothing on the coin which dosnt

belong there.

i will try to get a good picture of the reflections.

 

You're most welcome and you very well might be right. If I had seen good (or better) luster, I would have guessed M65 at a minimum.

[wanne]

i try new pictures !

[Mark T]

That coin has a nice strike. If that coin has good luster I go MS 66 .

[physics-fan3.14]

This coin is going to be all about the luster - the strike is superb, and there don't appear to be many marks. If the luster looks like the pics, I'm going to go with Mark and say 64. If the luster is strong, it could go as high as 66.

[James_OldeTowne]

If the luster is really as dead as portrayed, then MS-62. But it appears to have the sharpness and surface quality worthy of MS-65. I wonder if it's been overdipped?

[Mark T]

If you look at his other pictures they also seem to be muted - I think it is the lighting . I bet the coin looks great in hand.

[wanne]

still working on a new picture...

my pix are without flash so you will not see real shiny luster which comes mostly from flashlights.

in any case,this coin is 100% not dipped !!

[MarkFeld]

still working on a new picture...

my pix are without flash so you will not see real shiny luster which comes mostly from flashlights.

in any case,this coin is 100% not dipped !!

 

It might appear to be undipped, but unless it has been in your possession since the time it was minted, it is best to not make statements such as "this coin is 100% not dipped".

 

That's because you have absolutely no way of knowing. It is much more prudent to say something to the effect of "It looks/appears to be undipped".

 

Call me picky if you wish.

[wanne]

youre right !

but you know what i meant !?

it appears to be undipped.

[Mark T]

still working on a new picture...

my pix are without flash so you will not see real shiny luster which comes mostly from flashlights.

in any case,this coin is 100% not dipped !!

 

You should not take pictures with a flash - proper lighting is the key.

Tom B did a write up on this series of coin – if I remember correctly un toned examples have a powder white appearance.

So you cannot say that this coin was never dipped.

Dipped or not it is a good looking coin .

[wanne]

i never use flashlight on my coin pictures.

and this coin has some toning.

[wanne]

new pictures to show surface quality.

[MarkFeld]

If there are no hidden flaws of consequence, I could see it grading MS66.

[Mark T]

New photos confirm what I though - MS 66 .

 

Nice coin .

[e1cnr]

I am leaning towards a proof strike

[Mokiechan]

I have never seen one with a better strike, I wonder if NCS could improve it's overall appearance and get it into a MS65 slab?

[Mark T]

I have never seen one with a better strike, I wonder if NCS could improve it's overall appearance and get it into a MS65 slab?

 

Why would NCS need to do anything with this coin ?? The coin should get into an MS 66 as is .

[James_OldeTowne]

WOW WOW WOW HUGE difference in appearance with that angle!

 

Now it looks like an MS-66 at least too me. Nice prooflike as well.

[wanne]

thx alot guys !

so this is very well worth to get it graded.

not so easy for me here in germany but still worth the pain i guess :-)

[wanne]

hi guys !

 

long time ago :-)

 

i just got it back from PCGS as a PR64.

 

while iam happy this is a proof the 64 is really lower then i have expected.

what do you think ??

 

regards

[James_OldeTowne]

hi guys !

 

long time ago :-)

 

i just got it back from PCGS as a PR64.

 

while iam happy this is a proof the 64 is really lower then i have expected.

what do you think ??

 

regards

It means that your images, with virtual certainty, did not reveal hairlines that keep the coin in that grade. The TPGs are pretty darned consistent around the PR-62 - PR-66 grade range, probably to the tune of 98%.

 

If PCGS has opined as PR-64, then you can probably take that to the bank. It's a great coin, so enjoy it as-is!

[wanne]

TPGs ??

 

plz explain :-)

 

by the way...if i try looking really hard i can see some really micro minor hairlines,but that would still ceritify for higher than MS64 !?

but anyway that coin came to me raw at the cost of 100$.

 

thx

[Bugmann1974]

I think $100 plus grading fees for this coin is great! Nice score.

[e1cnr]

you did well over purchase - worth near $500 possibly now

 

 

this is one of those cases a business strike would be worth more

[Oldtrader3]

Worth more than $500, a lot more. Nice coin, I like it a lot.