1940's Mint Sets in Packages- should I put them in holders newbie asks.

[jsilver2th]

OK- I will post some pics and I will not move them for now anyway. Thanks for the advice. My friends say I tend to be a bit paranoid but I'd be a bit skiddish about sending them off to be graded in any event because I only trust USPS about 99.7% and have seen many nice items ruined or lost.

[noow]

Well said.

[jsilver2th]

Well you maybe correct but I tell you they look sweet.

[physics-fan3.14]

Well you maybe correct but I tell you they look sweet.

 

Absolutely not ruling that out - 64 and 65 coins look sweet as well. The subtleties of grading can be very difficult to pick up, especially just from reading things online.

[jsilver2th]

"subtleties of grading can be very difficult to pick up"

 

You are sure right about that? What happened to the good old days when we had Poor Good Very Good Fine Excellent Uncirculated and Proof? I could handle that!

[physics-fan3.14]

"subtleties of grading can be very difficult to pick up"

 

You are sure right about that? What happened to the good old days when we had Poor Good Very Good Fine Excellent Uncirculated and Proof? I could handle that!

 

You're talking about way before I was born.

[Buffalo Head]

"subtleties of grading can be very difficult to pick up"

 

You are sure right about that? What happened to the good old days when we had Poor Good Very Good Fine Excellent Uncirculated and Proof? I could handle that!

 

You're talking about way before I was born.

 

Maaaaan, I'm old. I remember when there were no AU grades. The coins were either XF or Uncirculated. When dealers would grade their coins AU my dad would , he didn't like that....

[mtnstyne]

OK- thanks- I'm not sending them anywhere for the time being and I will not try and clean any of them- there are only a few that would need any cleaning at all.

 

Since no one else said it yet....

 

DO NOT CLEAN ANY COINS!!!!! EVER!!!!

 

also, when you are getting ready to sell I would be interested in 1949 coins. It's my mothers birthyear.

[Conder101]

Are there definitely D and S mint coins in this group? The description of each coin in a separate cellophane envelope, grouped, folded over, and stapled sounds a lot like the early proof sets not mint sets. But that doesn't match with the date range given (Proofs 1940-42 only). Problem is the date range doesn't match for Mint Sets either (1947 - 49 only). Also mint sets would have two coins of each denomination for each mint. These may just be put together date and mint sets in which case there is no original holder so putting them into new holders would probably be a good idea.

[jsilver2th]

Thanks for your comments. Yes there are D & S mints. I made some scans and I am going to post them if I can get it together. You can see what these look like.

[jsilver2th]

Hello everyone- thanks for hanging in their with me- I have some scans but they aren't that great- all the coins are scanned through the cellophane bags and it didn't always work out well and I think it makes them look filmy and there are reflections and issues with the celluloid. Anyway you can get the idea. I am going to attempt to post these as follows- I picked two random sets- 41D and 42D- I will do one year at a time and first show the manilla envelopes and then the set of packaged coins and then both sides of each coin start with penny through half-dollars. I don't think these scans can give a very great basis for grading because of all the issues mention and my cheap scanner but any comments are certainly welcomed. I would say in life the pennies for example look very minty but darker in the scans. Anyway such as it is and here are the scans. If they don't show use this link below and I hope you can view the on FB. Thanks my friends.

 

[jsilver2th]

The correct link is:

 

coin photos

 

[jsilver2th]

[physics-fan3.14]

They look like attractive coins, but I do see hazing on some of them. They don't appear to be official government sets, so the value is totally with the coins. Most of them don't appear to be worth sending in for certification, so if you want to sell them your best bet would be to list them here for sale as is.

[MarkFeld]

Can someone please post a link to tne images that can be clicked on?

 

Thanks.

[physics-fan3.14]

Jsilvers Pics

[MarkFeld]

Thanks for the effort. Unfortunately, I don't do Facebook, so cannot access the images.

[Old Pueblo]

Thanks for the effort. Unfortunately, I don't do Facebook, so cannot access the images.

Here are a couple from FB

[mtnstyne]

Some but not all of the pics.

 

 

It looks to me like someone put together the mint sets from pieces of leftovers maybe. But then again I don't think they came in celophane in the 40s so I could be completely off base.

[RWB]

...now if the dime was 42/41-D.....

[jsilver2th]

I can see the limitations of using facebook- I was under the impression that anyone could see the files and I guess I can't link to them here- I have an alternative where I can post them and will try that.

 

So we are moving towards an opinion that it is ok to move the coins into holders and that the packaging does not add much?

 

I think the quality is better live and the cellophane really detracts from the accuracy of the scans.

 

I won't get the pictures up until later today. Thanks again.

[jsilver2th]

I'll post them elsewhere later today so you and all can see them. Sorry I didn't realize that FB reuired a log in to view- And making a link here is still a mystery- guess I need to use html. Thanks.

[MarkFeld]

Thanks for posting the images, gentlemen. The coins look ordinary, from the little bit I can see of them.

 

While imaging them through the cellophane will make them harder to get a good look at, I do think some potential buyers might be enamored with the older (albeit, non Mint) packaging.

 

They need to be sold on a sight-seen basis anyway, and you can always remove them from the packaging later, if need be. All things considered, I would leave them in their current holders - better to keep your options open.

[mtnstyne]

While imaging them through the cellophane will make them harder to get a good look at, I do think some potential buyers might be enamored with the older (albeit, non Mint) packaging.

 

They need to be sold on a sight-seen basis anyway, and you can always remove them from the packaging later, if need be. All things considered, I would leave them in their current holders - better to keep your options open.

 

What Mark said. I would want to buy them in the packaging they are in myself. It just means less handling in the end.

[WoodenJefferson]

I can find no in formation, not that it does not exist, where the Mint sold compiled "Mint Sets" (business struck coins) to the general public prior to 1947. From 1947 through 1958, government-issued mint sets include two of each coin.

 

Those early mint sets (1947-1958) were packaged at the mint in open cardboard cut-out containers and so did not keep coins from tarnishing. Since 1959, mint sets have been packaged in sealed, plastic envelopes.

 

The cellophane envelopes do very much look like the type used to house the "Proof" coinage from that era, even stapling them together as such, duplicated the technique used by the Mint.

 

The envelopes are standard and anyone can have a rubber stamp made to order or even a kit where you slide the rubber letters between rails on a stamp.

 

For now leave as is...there is no hurry I would assume?

[noow]

While imaging them through the cellophane will make them harder to get a good look at, I do think some potential buyers might be enamored with the older (albeit, non Mint) packaging.

 

They need to be sold on a sight-seen basis anyway, and you can always remove them from the packaging later, if need be. All things considered, I would leave them in their current holders - better to keep your options open.

 

What Mark said. I would want to buy them in the packaging they are in myself. It just means less handling in the end.

 

+1

[WoodenJefferson]

Mark, from what I have seen (images provided) I don't think these coins ever seen a collection bin, maybe they were taken off the top of the pile or were caught coming out of the coining press...but they all seem to be pretty much tick free?

[MarkFeld]

Mark, from what I have seen (images provided) I don't think these coins ever seen a collection bin, maybe they were taken off the top of the pile or were caught coming out of the coining press...but they all seem to be pretty much tick free?

I can't tell that from tne images provided. And they could have easily come from rolls, other collections, or elsewhere, years after they were struck.

[RWB]

The mints did not have extra staff to assemble “mint sets” during the war. Proofs were discontinued in 1942, and the one person who handled all the proof coins retired in 1943. Needlessly shipping coins around the country was not a war priority.

 

After the war, the original plan was to issue proof sets staring in 1947, but budget disagreements with Congress and internal to Treasury delayed proof sets until 1950. The double sets starting in 1947 were made in an attempt to placate collectors.

 

The sets mentioned above could have been assembled from bank rolls in or near the year of issue, or could have been assembled later. If they are part of a group that includes mint-issued sets, or mint proof sets in original packaging, then they were more likely assembled by a collector or dealer to “fill the war gap” in set collections.

 

[J.A. Collection]

The mints did not have extra staff to assemble “mint sets” during the war. Proofs were discontinued in 1942, and the one person who handled all the proof coins retired in 1943. Needlessly shipping coins around the country was not a war priority.

 

After the war, the original plan was to issue proof sets staring in 1947, but budget disagreements with Congress and internal to Treasury delayed proof sets until 1950. The double sets starting in 1947 were made in an attempt to placate collectors.

 

The sets mentioned above could have been assembled from bank rolls in or near the year of issue, or could have been assembled later. If they are part of a group that includes mint-issued sets, or mint proof sets in original packaging, then they were more likely assembled by a collector or dealer to “fill the war gap” in set collections.

 

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